wow, so now people that don't know how to spell good, don't have to learn how to spell at all. lol
dahuman said:
and I say unless you are doing something illegal, you have obsolutely nothing to fear, I don't even give a shit about the NSA doing whatever it is that they do because I'm not afraid |
I'm not afraid either but just because it's not directly harmful does not mean it's somehow 'right' or not harmful in some indirect way. No goverment or other third party should know my private things unless there's good reason for them to know it, and I think that alone is a fairly reasonable expectation. But you want more? Well, having the technical capability to spy on people opens up easy possibility for abuse of the system, and while it's not a problem now, no one guarantees it won't be a problem tomorrow. Politics can be quite unexpected at times, especially at harsh times (see Ukraine). Any and all ways to abuse the system should be avoided/eliminated ASAP because it's too late to cry when things go wrong. It's not just unconvenience we're talking about here, it's democracy itself.
Also, I wouldn't want a camera or several in my apartment even if I knew they were being monitored mainly by machines but occassionally by humans as well if need be - and at this rate, it won't take very many decades before we're at that point. First it'll be your door to 'keep you safe', then your apartment because criminals are crafty folk and tighter measures need to be taken to 'keep you safe'. At that point, it could really go just about anywhere.
The only thing I can think of right now that pissed me off at Google is that they practically forced me to create a Google Plus account when the whole Youtube and Google plus merger thing happened. That really pissed me off.
Zkuq said:
I'm not afraid either but just because it's not directly harmful does not mean it's somehow 'right' or not harmful in some indirect way. No goverment or other third party should know my private things unless there's good reason for them to know it, and I think that alone is a fairly reasonable expectation. But you want more? Well, having the technical capability to spy on people opens up easy possibility for abuse of the system, and while it's not a problem now, no one guarantees it won't be a problem tomorrow. Politics can be quite unexpected at times, especially at harsh times (see Ukraine). Any and all ways to abuse the system should be avoided/eliminated ASAP because it's too late to cry when things go wrong. It's not just unconvenience we're talking about here, it's democracy itself. Also, I wouldn't want a camera or several in my apartment even if I knew they were being monitored mainly by machines but occassionally by humans as well if need be - and at this rate, it won't take very many decades before we're at that point. First it'll be your door to 'keep you safe', then your apartment because criminals are crafty folk and tighter measures need to be taken to 'keep you safe'. At that point, it could really go just about anywhere. |
We give out our information everyday, if you don't any information of yourself to be out there, you shouldn't be on the internet, or use a smartphone, or talk to people at all, buy a land in the midwest somewhere and just farm with an alias. Basically, it's already too late. 
| dahuman said: We give out our information everyday, if you don't any information of yourself to be out there, you shouldn't be on the internet, or use a smartphone, or talk to people at all, buy a land in the midwest somewhere and just farm with an alias. Basically, it's already too late. |
Most of the 'usual' information is relatively uninformative compared to what we're talking about here so there's that. I'm not being paranoid about all information, it's just excessive information that I'm concerned about.
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