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fatslob-:O on 18 March 2014
Chris Hu said:

Sure keep telling yourself that I guess you never heard of Halo 1 or 2 nothing on the Gamecube came even close to being as big.

Just because it had bigger system sellers than the gamecube doesn't exempt it from being a failure like the gamecube. 

"It would be insanity to think that the gamecube was a huge failure in comparison to the original xbox being a roaring success." - sean malstrom, paraphrased



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Chris Hu on 18 March 2014
fatslob-:O said:
Chris Hu said:

Sure keep telling yourself that I guess you never heard of Halo 1 or 2 nothing on the Gamecube came even close to being as big.

Just because it had bigger system sellers than the gamecube doesn't exempt it from being a failure like the gamecube. 

"It would be insanity to think that the gamecube was a huge failure in comparison to the original xbox being a roaring success." - sean malstrom, paraphrased

It wasn't a failure it might have been a failure where you lived in the UK but in the US and North America it was actually pretty successful a lot more successful then the Gamecube for sure.



fatslob-:O on 18 March 2014
Chris Hu said:

It wasn't a failure it might have been a failure where you lived in the UK but in the US and North America it was actually pretty successful a lot more successful then the Gamecube for sure.

It doesn't matter if it had scraps from north america or not. The end result is that both the gamecube and the original xbox were failures and there is no denying it. 



Chris Hu on 18 March 2014
fatslob-:O said:
Chris Hu said:

It wasn't a failure it might have been a failure where you lived in the UK but in the US and North America it was actually pretty successful a lot more successful then the Gamecube for sure.

It doesn't matter if it had scraps from north america or not. The end result is that both the gamecube and the original xbox were failures and there is no denying it. 


In your world it was a failure but here in North America it was a pretty good success and Halo 2 was actually the first game to have a midnight release.  Wheter one console is a failure or not has do a lot with where you live the Saturn is considered a failure by most people but in Japan it actually did decent numbers it even outsold the N64.  The SMS was a huge failure compared to the NES in North America but in South America and Europe it actually did pretty decent against the NES.



fatslob-:O on 18 March 2014
Chris Hu said:


In your world it was a failure but here in North America it was a pretty good success and Halo 2 was actually the first game to have a midnight release.  Wheter one console is a failure or not has do a lot with where you live the Saturn is considered a failure by most people but in Japan it actually did decent numbers it even outsold the N64.  The SMS was a huge failure compared to the NES in North America but in South America and Europe it actually did pretty decent against the NES.

If you equate getting scraps from the PS2 to being a pretty good success then we have some issues here. Where you live doesn't matter, all that matters is the general reception and even in it's best territory it was a failure much like the gamecube. Once again there is no denying the fact that the original xbox all in all just flopped. 



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NintendoPie on 18 March 2014
RolStoppable said:
Is it certain that falling behind could result in a loss of third party support? If we reflect on the past decade, it has become increasingly clear that sales do not really matter.

1. If you are Nintendo, you will get the short end of the stick regardless of how much third party software your platforms move.

2. If you are Sony, you will get good treatment regardless of how much in the toilet your system is. The most recent example is the Vita which picked up third party support during a time when it was outsold roughly 6:1 by the 3DS in Japan and was an as good as dead platform in the Western markets.

3. If you are Microsoft, you are like Sony minus some of the benefits from Japan. So if the Xbox One falls behind the PS4 4:1 in LTD sales, we should still expect it to get pretty much the same games as the PS4 (except Japanese games, of course).

Spot on with the first two. However, I would wager that we don't have as much background information to gauge MS' third party support standards on. XB, I think, got moderate third party support and XB360 got very good third party support. However, with Sony doing much better than last generation, we might see those third party support levels drop. (Outside of the US, of course.)

OT: I was expecting an "article" about Nintendo's imminent doom; instead I got a supportive XBO write up. What's going on?



Chris Hu on 18 March 2014
fatslob-:O said:
Chris Hu said:


In your world it was a failure but here in North America it was a pretty good success and Halo 2 was actually the first game to have a midnight release.  Wheter one console is a failure or not has do a lot with where you live the Saturn is considered a failure by most people but in Japan it actually did decent numbers it even outsold the N64.  The SMS was a huge failure compared to the NES in North America but in South America and Europe it actually did pretty decent against the NES.

If you equate getting scraps from the PS2 to being a pretty good success then we have some issues here. Where you live doesn't matter, all that matters is the general reception and even in it's best territory it was a failure much like the gamecube. Once again there is no denying the fact that the original xbox all in all just flopped. 

Sure it flopped in the UK but here in the US it was actually a big deal again do some research on Halo 2 it was huge over here again it was the first game to have a midnight release.  Don't believe me watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9am6fMBhtfg the launch of that game was even featured on Jimmy Kimmel Live.



fatslob-:O on 18 March 2014
Chris Hu said:
fatslob-:O said:
Chris Hu said:


In your world it was a failure but here in North America it was a pretty good success and Halo 2 was actually the first game to have a midnight release.  Wheter one console is a failure or not has do a lot with where you live the Saturn is considered a failure by most people but in Japan it actually did decent numbers it even outsold the N64.  The SMS was a huge failure compared to the NES in North America but in South America and Europe it actually did pretty decent against the NES.

If you equate getting scraps from the PS2 to being a pretty good success then we have some issues here. Where you live doesn't matter, all that matters is the general reception and even in it's best territory it was a failure much like the gamecube. Once again there is no denying the fact that the original xbox all in all just flopped. 

Sure it flopped in the UK but here in the US it was actually a big deal again do some research on Halo 2 it was huge over here again it was the first game to have a midnight release.  Don't believe me watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9am6fMBhtfg the launch of that game was even featured on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

Whether or not Halo 2 was bigger than any gamecube game or the fact that it had scraps from the PS2 makes no difference in the end. They were both just as big of failures. Having scraps in one region meant nothing if it was a flop in total. 

"How can one even claim that original xbox did "much better" than the gamecube when it's market share was just as big as the gamecube while producing a 6 billion dollar loss IN TOTAL." - A Sean Malstrom thought ...



POE on 18 March 2014

Totally wrong.



kayoss on 18 March 2014

@fallen

Oh it's you again... Another outlandish theory?