Forums - Gaming Discussion - Do people realize it's almost impossible to kill a douopoly console? (SONY/MS/XBox One)

What I mean is with Nintendo not appealing to core gamers the last two gens, what we have is a douopoly in the core market between MS and SONY. Not domination by one company like a monopoly, but two. The same as 360/PS3 last gen.

What this means is if one competitor falls too far behind, if it risks losing third party support, it's doomed. So, each company is certain to not let that happen, because it would mean certain death of their entire investment.

 

So I'd just caution those hoping Xbox somehow goes away, it's not going to happen. MS will cut the price to $199 if they needed too. Of course far less drastic measures will get it done, it's just to illustrate the point. Already you can see MS being aggressive with Titanfall marketing, Titanfall bundle, and Forza 5 pack in. But that's just the earliest beginning. People can crow how bad Xbox is being beaten, or that it's already dead...but it's March. MS will take their sweet time in the scheme of things. They might not cut to $399 until say, September. So people will say for March, April, May, etc that Xbox is D000med as the sale figures roll in...but it's meaningless, it's a short term view with no long term ramifications. It's no more doomed than when PS3 sold incredibly poorly in early 2006.

Another thing is people dont realize, even a healthy 2nd place just in the USA and UK is enough to gaurentee third party support. You dont even need to win those markets, just say do decently well in them. Xbox can do that with ease. Hell it is currently despite all the problems and a high price.

So, the point is the only "endgame" here is the loss of third party support, and in a douopoly of consoles, it's almost impossible to make that happen.

 



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It's far too early to call this a "duopoly". Would you have considered 6th gen a "duopoly" when in fact the original xbox performed just as bad as the gamecube ?

Kill? Sure, xbone will have good support in the west. Doesn't stop it from having bad sales though.



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You came up with this whole notion to defend xbox?

Gen7 was a duopoly indeed, this one so far is a thrashing done by the PS4 anywhere but in the US and the UK, and after the Titanfall boost subsides, it'll level out there also. Not to Europe ratios, but the PS4 will be consistently ahead.

This thread should be named "do people realize MS will (supposedly) go far out of their way to push xbox".



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That may be true unless Microsoft thinks that it is unprofitable and decides to sell the Xbox brand.

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Is it certain that falling behind could result in a loss of third party support? If we reflect on the past decade, it has become increasingly clear that sales do not really matter.

1. If you are Nintendo, you will get the short end of the stick regardless of how much third party software your platforms move.

2. If you are Sony, you will get good treatment regardless of how much in the toilet your system is. The most recent example is the Vita which picked up third party support during a time when it was outsold roughly 6:1 by the 3DS in Japan and was an as good as dead platform in the Western markets.

3. If you are Microsoft, you are like Sony minus some of the benefits from Japan. So if the Xbox One falls behind the PS4 4:1 in LTD sales, we should still expect it to get pretty much the same games as the PS4 (except Japanese games, of course).

Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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The XBox One and PS4 are similar enough in terms of game programming that they'll get 3rd party support no matter how far beyond one of them falls in sales. It's much easier for developers to make games on one and port it over to the other now.

Which is a lesson Nintendo could learn from.

Prediction (made in 2010) - The PS3 will eventually pass the Wii in lifetime sales. 

Prediction (made in 2010) - The Wii will not come close to the PS2 in lifetime sales 

RolStoppable said:
Is it certain that falling behind could result in a loss of third party support? If we reflect on the past decade, it has become increasingly clear that sales do not really matter.

1. If you are Nintendo, you will get the short end of the stick regardless of how much third party software your platforms move.

2. If you are Sony, you will get good treatment regardless of how much in the toilet your system is. The most recent example is the Vita which picked up third party support during a time when it was outsold roughly 6:1 by the 3DS in Japan and was an as good as dead platform in the Western markets.

3. If you are Microsoft, you are like Sony minus some of the benefits from Japan. So if the Xbox One falls behind the PS4 4:1 in LTD sales, we should still expect it to get pretty much the same games as the PS4 (except Japanese games, of course).

Your Nintendo observation could not be more wrong. The Wii U is getting more than its fair share of support considering the sales of its games.



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fatslob-:O said:
It's far too early to call this a "duopoly". Would you have considered 6th gen a "duopoly" when in fact the original xbox performed just as bad as the gamecube ?


Actually the original X-Box did a lot better then the Gamecube since it actually moved software it still has the highest atachment ratio of any console.  The main purpose of a console is to move software and so far still no other system has done it better then the original X-Box.