Too_Talls said: It wasn't a secret that it was multiplayer only. should have thought about that before buying it. it's like complaining about buying a toy that says batteries not included big and bold and then complaining about no batteries like a brat as if you didn't know when you picked it off the shelf. It's not half a game, it's the whole games as advertised. you didn't have to buy it. Looking at your avatar op I assume you for one would have known before hand exactly what you were buying into.

You're missing the point. He's not saying he didn't know it was MP only or anything like that. He's saying he thought that the MP would be enough to make the game worth it and to him it isn't. He also said that there doesn't seem to be a whole lot to do which is his main reason for feeling like the game wasn't worth $60.

"The lack of Campaign mode is bothering me more than I thought"

"I find myself wanting to try new things in the game and I can't"

He knew full well that it didn't have a campaign but he expected the remaining portion of the game to be more than it turned out to be.

All I can say is multi player games are never fun for long if your going in alone.

it's called "multi player" for a reason.

I got my team and we can go for hours on top of hours. It's the combination of a good game and communicating wit people. I could never play gta online for long, friends or not, same with the last cod installment.

Titanfall is the real shit.

radha said: J_Allard said: radha said: When a developer makes a single player game I feel they build a roller coaster for me, and I feel MP games are a parking lot, where people can play amongst themselves, but here are not rides or anything, is only empty space, in MP, gamers are making the fun, is lazy for a dev to make a MP only game if they plan to charge full price. Yeah but eventually i will tire of riding the carousel the developers want me to plow through in a scripted setting against AI so give me that parking lot where we make our own rides Yes, but fairly speaking, in which do you think there were more resources invested? in the roller couster rigth, so it makes sense that you pay something like US$60, but why pay US$60 on the parking lot? they made very little invesment, but on top of that they will charge US$10 for each map, is a slap in the face, they barely spend money making the game, even the license for the engine should be one of the cheapest, and yet they are charging very high.

I would disagree with pretty much all of that. For one I don't think the cost put into it should matter. If I go into a movie theater and I pick between Transformers 4 or Indie Title A, there might be a huge, $100,000,000+ difference in budget, but I'll be paying the same ticket price. Furthermore we have no way of knowing which portion would have had more time and money invested. We could logically guess SP would have simply because it takes more, but given the size of Respawn, IRS an even more logical guess that a SP would have drastically affected the content and balance of MP. Keeping with the amusement park analogy, would you want a park with decent roller coasters, but also a kids zone and some decent water rides, or a park with nothing but killer roller coasters? If coasters aren't your thing youmight not be interested and if you have kids or like water rides you might want a more complete but not as fine tuned experience elsewhere but if you know coasters are your thing its going to be an incredible place. Now shouldn't those guests pay the same guests would pay elsewhere? Ofccourse.

Too_Talls said: All I can say is multi player games are never fun for long if your going in alone. it's called "multi player" for a reason. I got my team and we can go for hours on top of hours. It's the combination of a good game and communicating wit people. I could never play gta online for long, friends or not, same with the last cod installment. Titanfall is the real shit.

What does that have to do with anything? It almost sounds like you're saying that anyone who doesn't feel 100% happy with the game is somehow doing it wrong...I apologize if that's way off but I just can't think of why else that part of your post (or even the whole post really) even needed to be here. It doesn't relate to the OP, and it's not in response to anything I or anyone else have said...

Normchacho said: Too_Talls said: All I can say is multi player games are never fun for long if your going in alone. it's called "multi player" for a reason. I got my team and we can go for hours on top of hours. It's the combination of a good game and communicating wit people. I could never play gta online for long, friends or not, same with the last cod installment. Titanfall is the real shit. What does that have to do with anything? It almost sounds like you're saying that anyone who doesn't feel 100% happy with the game is somehow doing it wrong...I apologize if that's way off but I just can't think of why else that part of your post (or even the whole post really) even needed to be here. It doesn't relate to the OP, and it's not in response to anything I or anyone else have said...

If youve never played the shit out of any game just for multi player, then a multi player only game probably isn't for you.......... thats all I'm saying.

J_Allard said: radha said: J_Allard said: radha said: When a developer makes a single player game I feel they build a roller coaster for me, and I feel MP games are a parking lot, where people can play amongst themselves, but here are not rides or anything, is only empty space, in MP, gamers are making the fun, is lazy for a dev to make a MP only game if they plan to charge full price. Yeah but eventually i will tire of riding the carousel the developers want me to plow through in a scripted setting against AI so give me that parking lot where we make our own rides Yes, but fairly speaking, in which do you think there were more resources invested? in the roller couster rigth, so it makes sense that you pay something like US$60, but why pay US$60 on the parking lot? they made very little invesment, but on top of that they will charge US$10 for each map, is a slap in the face, they barely spend money making the game, even the license for the engine should be one of the cheapest, and yet they are charging very high. I would disagree with pretty much all of that. For one I don't think the cost put into it should matter. If I go into a movie theater and I pick between Transformers 4 or Indie Title A, there might be a huge, $100,000,000+ difference in budget, but I'll be paying the same ticket price. Furthermore we have no way of knowing which portion would have had more time and money invested. We could logically guess SP would have simply because it takes more, but given the size of Respawn, IRS an even more logical guess that a SP would have drastically affected the content and balance of MP. Keeping with the amusement park analogy, would you want a park with decent roller coasters, but also a kids zone and some decent water rides, or a park with nothing but killer roller coasters? If coasters aren't your thing youmight not be interested and if you have kids or like water rides you might want a more complete but not as fine tuned experience elsewhere but if you know coasters are your thing its going to be an incredible place. Now shouldn't those guests pay the same guests would pay elsewhere? Ofccourse.

Why compare it to going to the movies? is more like buying a book or a DVD, the indie ones are cheaper, a knowed writed with stablished franchise will charge more and a book will be more expensive based on the language, target audience, production values and quality. SP would be like buying a learn by example programming book but MP would be like buying a drowing book with crayons, i want to see those charge premium.