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Did Sony just give away being the undisputed leader this gen?

Yes 36 18.00%
 
No 95 47.50%
 
Maybe 44 22.00%
 
My cat's breath smells like cat food 24 12.00%
 
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Are you aware the ps4 is the fastest selling console in history? there is nothing they could do, they are not limited in stock is the demand that is crazy.



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I dont think you are seeing this right. Maybe some off clouds come from the US. Its impossible to win with one region. Absolutely impossible.

Look at the charts! PS4 sells more than double the X1 every week and Has above 6 million sold versus the X1 3.6. Its on track to sell double just at this pace. How are they not the undisputed leaders already? Extend this for a few years and what is 3 vs 6 becomes 30 vs 60. Is that not an undisputed lead?



Nem said:

I dont think you are seeing this right. Maybe some off clouds come from the US. Its impossible to win with one region. Absolutely impossible.

Look at the charts! PS4 sells more than double the X1 every week and Has above 6 million sold versus the X1 3.6. Its on track to sell double just at this pace. How are they not the undisputed leaders already? Extend this for a few years and what is 3 vs 6 becomes 30 vs 60. Is that not an undisputed lead?


Undisputed as in other devs wouldn't even have to consider launching on other platforms or to the point where exclusives on other platforms will hurt much like in the PS2 era.

We're not there yet and have a long way to go to get there.



withdreday said:
Nem said:

I dont think you are seeing this right. Maybe some off clouds come from the US. Its impossible to win with one region. Absolutely impossible.

Look at the charts! PS4 sells more than double the X1 every week and Has above 6 million sold versus the X1 3.6. Its on track to sell double just at this pace. How are they not the undisputed leaders already? Extend this for a few years and what is 3 vs 6 becomes 30 vs 60. Is that not an undisputed lead?


Undisputed as in other devs wouldn't even have to consider launching on other platforms or to the point where exclusives on other platforms will hurt much like in the PS2 era.

We're not there yet and have a long way to go to get there.


We're on that track so far though.



Areym said:

also at @kymmie: I'm just being realistic. I don't have any theories, stats or facts to back my statement, it's just my gut feeling. I'm not buying the whole "supply constrained." 


I dont know how you cant buy it. There is no logical way to think that. MS sold 3mil by the end of last uear and shipped 3.9 mil. Thats not constrained. Sony sold 4.2m last year and shipped 4.2m. At the end of Feb they sold over 6m. Even they arent supply constrained then they would have to not sell a single unit in March and show shipments of about 6.9m in May for their financials. Thats just absurd



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I dont think demand has died off.
In the UK, the only available stock is where retailers have made ridiculous bundles and inflated the prices.
The PS4 byitself on amazon always shows an expected date. Ive only seen it once where it said 'In stock'.
I just checked now and its out of stock with no estimated delivery date. cheapest other retailer on amazon is selling it for £370.



NYCrysis said:

I don't know who makes these decisions but Sony is failing on providing content for the ps4 that's not indie. Indies aren't going to attract the casuals. AAA games are. Microsoft has Titanfall, PVZ:GW, Sunset Overdrive, and Quantum Break, and Halo this year. Sony only has Infamous, mlb, and The Order all SP only games.

Killzone failed to get any long term community, Knack (loved it) but it wasn't good in gthe eyes of the mainstream.

Sony loaded 2013 with ps3 exclusives leaving the ps4 dry. They didn't even bother with a cross gen gran turismo, last of us, pupeteer, beyond 2 souls, and ratchet ITN. Stupid.


The mp community is why xb360 became as popular as it has where are Sony's mp games? Their first party mp lineup has always been trash. I really don't know why Sony is handing Microsoft a golden platter to beat the ps4 but seriously Sony needs to get their shit straight. MS has a Halo community and a Gears community.

Sony has diddlysquat and it really pisses me off that they don't want to take the risk of buying out a mp focused studio or making a good one.''

TLDR:

Sony missed an oppertunity of their sales advantage to get their hands on any 3rd party exclusive, make mp focused games, and launching a new revolutionary ip to compliment their launch and have legs. 

 

I don't know what you people expected.

Have you ever been through a console launch period before? I remember staring at my PS2 and thinking that it's a piece of shit cause there were literally no games available at one time.

It's always like this.

The situation is DEFINITELY NOT better onthe xbone 



Dr.Grass said:
NYCrysis said:

I don't know who makes these decisions but Sony is failing on providing content for the ps4 that's not indie. Indies aren't going to attract the casuals. AAA games are. Microsoft has Titanfall, PVZ:GW, Sunset Overdrive, and Quantum Break, and Halo this year. Sony only has Infamous, mlb, and The Order all SP only games.

Killzone failed to get any long term community, Knack (loved it) but it wasn't good in gthe eyes of the mainstream.

Sony loaded 2013 with ps3 exclusives leaving the ps4 dry. They didn't even bother with a cross gen gran turismo, last of us, pupeteer, beyond 2 souls, and ratchet ITN. Stupid.


The mp community is why xb360 became as popular as it has where are Sony's mp games? Their first party mp lineup has always been trash. I really don't know why Sony is handing Microsoft a golden platter to beat the ps4 but seriously Sony needs to get their shit straight. MS has a Halo community and a Gears community.

Sony has diddlysquat and it really pisses me off that they don't want to take the risk of buying out a mp focused studio or making a good one.''

TLDR:

Sony missed an oppertunity of their sales advantage to get their hands on any 3rd party exclusive, make mp focused games, and launching a new revolutionary ip to compliment their launch and have legs. 

 

I don't know what you people expected.

Have you ever been through a console launch period before? I remember staring at my PS2 and thinking that it's a piece of shit cause there were literally no games available at one time.

It's always like this.

The situation is DEFINITELY NOT better onthe xbone 

XB1 atm has Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, project spark beta, pvz gw, ryse, peggle 2, killer instinct, max curse of brotherhood, and titanfall. Soon to come is a bunch of indies Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, fable, and halo.

PS4 atm knack, killzone, and a bunch of indies. Soon to come though for 2014 Infamous 2nd son, MLB, and The Order (Had good hopes for mp, got a middle finger to the face). 

Also please don't list Sony's 1st party cause if a game from nd, ssm, etc... comes out next year we wont get another one from them another 1.5-2 years later aka the wait game.

 

No hate on Sony though here is how I feel MS got these "exclusives"

Here is what I think is going on. Basically MS looses billions on bing yet they keep it going. 

Xbox to microsoft is worth much more so MS is willing to outbid Sony on every 2nd and 3rd party exclusive they can get their hands on. 

Hell I can bet u insomniac fell for MS' and EA's analysis that xb1 was going to outsell the ps4. 

Well it has already bit EA in the ass with titanfall ignoring a 90 million+ fanbase (ps4/ps3 combined) and Insomniac is going to face the same problem ignoring a potential 10 million PS4 fanbase (old school ps fans who grew up with insomniac + many xbox converts) for a 5-6 million fanbase who doesn't care for Insomniac as much and already have a bad rep for them with fuse.

MS is the one to blame imo. Insomniac is small and prob. needed funding. MS prob took advantage and offered help ($$$) and advice (analysis that they will outsell ps4) for exclusivity and Insomniac prob. agreed to a contract not knowing what will happen. 

Same thing prob. happened with capcom.