J_Allard said:
LOL oh yeah free Knack, the lowest rated next gen game from Sony (or MS for that matter). Clearly they value the consumers.
Something is better than nothing, you hate on Knack just because you personally didn't like it, and that means its an insult giving it to Japan which is, as we all know, composed wholly of you with different hair cuts.
J_Allard said:
LOL oh yeah free Knack, the lowest rated next gen game from Sony (or MS for that matter). Clearly they value the consumers.
Of course, that's fantasy talk. They value consumers who give them money. And what better way to entice people to give them monies than by digitally bundling a shitty game that would otherwise not sell that much? And in a territory that has been declines every generation in console business. In reality, what Sony did with Japan is no different than what MS did with the Xbox One. They added value to the console to spur more sales. In each situation there are early adopters who bought the same console but got none of that bonus.
Sony did "refund" my money one time. Of course, Sony's version of a refund is where they take that money that they took off your debit/credit card, and put it back in your PSN wallet. Which means, of course, in the end, you're still stuck spending that money on their network. It's not really a refund. The last time they did this I told them I want a real actual refund or they'd lose a customer. They declined, and I haven't renewed my PS+ membership or spent a penny on PSN content since. One of the main reasons I couldn't care less about a PS4 right now, too.
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That is exactly what I'm talking about. That is what you should be doing. And if they didn't learn from that then its their loss.
But then...
And when my "repaired" 360 console from MS lasted a few hours before RROD'ing again, I told them if my returned console got the RROD again they would lose me as a consumer. My return unit was a new console with an updated chip set and the RROD was no longer an issue. Maybe people just have different opinions and get upset over different things? Maybe different strokes for different folks? That almost seems too simple.
I am aware you are talking about Sony fans and MS fans. Every post I have made in reply has been from a consumer point of view. You're just looking at things through selective glasses, and that makes you wrong. Can't make it any simpler for you, and now we're veering back into the same type of conversation we were having earlier, so toodles.
I'm not telling you to excuse Sony or Nintendo, I'm telling you to hold Microsoft to the same standard. You got mad at Sony for not giving you a full refund, but you gave Microsoft a 3rd chance with RROD, why? Just like the Nintendo fans realize, all you're doing is holding Microsoft back, and when you finally realize you're the reason Xbox is still sitting at 3.9 million "shipped" because of you, because you just accepted what they did. When the real Xbox 1 brought in Online Gaming and HDDs, controllers that detached from the port so it wouldn't pull down the console, and now the Xbox One is giving us hdmi in and stuff that the 360 had.
I don't know about you, but I actually value the fact that Xbox is owned by the most stable company of the three, rather than touting it around in d00m threads, because I recognize their potential and I wouldn't be wasting my time here if I didn't like Xbox.
But here's the thing, Xbox is just reacting to the sales. The writing is not only on the wall, but its inside you're eyelids and its written on your hand. Oh wow, MS is price cutting, oh look they are giving a way free games, this is temporary, they are only trying to see how much they can get away with, and then reel it in when they fully exploited the consumers who will defend their ability to do so.
Sony got their asses kicked by consumers for less offenses, please if you think my list is biased, go ahead show me how the ps3 console was so much more evil then the xbox one when it was announced.
Now look at where we are at right now, PS is scared to death of their consumers, cause if Sony loses PS then they're d00med. Xbox is just seeing how much they can get away with.