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J_Allard said:
Mad55 said:
Sony fans really mad for xbox customers lol.


Its strange, youd think if they were mad about bundle shenanigans theyd be mad at Sony for no bundle since Japan got one :(

I guess the fanbase is just too complacent.

ooo yea I forgot that japan got them bundles for ps4.



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LOL @ PS+ games. And since when did US launch consoles come with an entire year of PS+? Either way, not free games.



People will bitch and moan about anything.



J_Allard said:
LOL @ PS+ games. And since when did US launch consoles come with an entire year of PS+? Either way, not free games.

Ok then. I let you have that. PS screwed over US early adopters by not bundling Knack.

But let me ask you a question, J_Allard, when Microsoft announced the Xbox 1 or when they released the console in November, did they at least hint that their would be a price cut for UK or a tf bundle 4 months in?

Because when Sony annonced that they would release in Japan on Febuary, they confirmed that Japan would get an exclusive Knack Bundle as consolation (Something that Xbox has no comprehension of) So everyone knew this was coming since Sep 2013. If Xbox One release in Japan, I would be suprised if they got a sticker that said "day 1" on it.



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Wow so they not only gave the middle finger to US early adopters but rubbed it in by announcing it a couple months before the console was even out? Wow what dicks. I'm sure a fan base as loud and demanding and independent as Sonys was all up in arms over that? Oh wait I heard not a peep. Funny how that works.



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J_Allard said:
Wow so they not only gave the middle finger to US early adopters but rubbed it in by announcing it a couple months before the console was even out? Wow what dicks. I'm sure a fan base as loud and demanding and independent as Sonys was all up in arms over that? Oh wait I heard not a peep. Funny how that works.

You're deliberatly being facetious and are simply incredulous to my argument. But that's alright, I will continue to breakdown your foundation until you either realize its made of cardboard or until you fall threw, whatever works for you. Why would consumers be mad at others recieving consolation? Furthemore, those in Japan couldn't buy a Japanese ps4 before the Febuary, so its not even an issue concerning early adopters. Buying a Playstation 4, when Japan was allowed to get one, didn't get you Knack.

From your POV something like consolation must seem totally foreign to you so allow me to elaborate: When a company fcks up, they apologize in the form of added consoloation rather than just fixing the problem because they value their customer's support. 



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

I do not see why it is a big deal. People who bought it 3 months ago got it ... 3 months ago... that's it lol.
It was not free at this time and nobody forced them to buy it along the console.



Silly thing for early adopters to be upset about. If the value equation worked for them at launch, and then that category of consumers ran out and system started losing sales momentum, what else they expect MS to do?

Of course MS is making the right moves by improving the value proposition of the XBO

I still don't care myself, because I have no interest in paying $100+ for Kinect I don't want.



Imaginedvl said:
I do not see why it is a big deal. People who bought it 3 months ago got it ... 3 months ago... that's it lol.
It was not free at this time and nobody forced them to buy it along the console.

This one thing, is not really a big deal.

But its not just this one thing. It's ok for you to not be angry, but that's you. And If nobody gets angry then Microsoft wouldn't even think twice about doing worse. Which is why MS announced Always On, and 500$ price point. Even after hearing people threaten to cancel preorders cause of DRM, Xbox was like "Hur hur hur, very funny you guys. Now go ahead and pre-order it". Then when people weren't preordering it, Xbox was like "Oh shit, they weren't joking this time" and quickly started flipping all of the off switches.

MS could easily have pricecut Sony and sell the Xbox One at 400 at launch and be sitting at 8million consoles right now, but instead they said "Hur hur hur, Xbox is a 100$ more value than PS4"

And Xbox Fans were like:

You've got to cross the line somewhere.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
J_Allard said:
Wow so they not only gave the middle finger to US early adopters but rubbed it in by announcing it a couple months before the console was even out? Wow what dicks. I'm sure a fan base as loud and demanding and independent as Sonys was all up in arms over that? Oh wait I heard not a peep. Funny how that works.

You're deliberatly being facetious and are simply incredulous to my argument. But that's alright, I will continue to breakdown your foundation until you either realize its made of cardboard or until you fall threw, whatever works for you. Why would consumers be mad at others recieving consolation? Furthemore, those in Japan couldn't buy a Japanese ps4 before the Febuary, so its not even an issue concerning early adopters. Buying a Playstation 4, when Japan was allowed to get one, didn't get you Knack.

From your POV something like consolation must seem totally foreign to you so allow me to elaborate: When a company fcks up, they apologize in the form of added consoloation rather than just fixing the problem because they value their customer's support. 

As a consumer, why do I care that Sony released the PS4 late in Japan? As a consumer, I see Buyer A getting a free game bundled with the console while I got nothing. If this was something that would bother me, I would be bothered whether it was Company A (MS) or Company B (Sony) doing it. What you're trying to say is fans should be pissed at Company A (MS) but hey guys relax its perfectly logical and cool guys relax! when it comes to Company B.

I understand consolation perfectly fine, seems you are confused on the whole "fucking up" part though. As a consumer I wouldn't expect extra shit if a console released late in the US. When Sega or MS gave me a few broken consoles I didn't demand anything extra. When Sony repeatedly charged my credit card for stupid services I never signed up for via PSN, I never demanded any extra reimbursement. Just now an hour ago Whataburger forgot my daughters chicken strip basket. I noticed about halfway home. I turned around and went back and got it. I didn't ask for any free cookies or a free drink or a refund. I couldn't imagine living life like that, looking for whatever handout I could get any time a company "wronged" me.

I paid a price for their product that at the time I deemed to be worth it. If something better comes along (like oh idk it ALWAYS DOES in consoles) then I have no one to blame but myself, not MS/Sony/Nintendo.