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SvennoJ on 04 March 2014
binary solo said:
Of the best picture nominations I've seen I enjoyed Gravity the most. But I haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street yet and I'm pretty sure I'll like that better than Gravity.

The Oscars are pretty PC, while I think 12 Years a Slave is a very good movie and deserved the nomination and is a worthy Oscar winner, I don't think the best movie won, and that may be partly due to the subject matter. I think Dallas Buyers Club was about as good as 12 Years a Slave.

OTOH I think Steve McQueen did a better job as director than Alfonso, so I think he was robbed of being the first ever Black person to win a best director Oscar. In some ways it almost seems like the voters decided to split their director and movie nods to give Gravity one award and 12 Years another.

I guess they figured he deserved it for putting an oscar winning team together. Otherwise he had to share it with Mark Sanger for film editing. He earned it more for Children of men but there were too many strong movies in 2007.



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allenmaher on 04 March 2014
NintendoPie said:

Gravity was the movie of 2013. It will define last year in film forever. The Directing, Cinematography, Visual Effects, and story line were all pretty much perfect. When a movie transports you into the actor's situation as well as Gravity did, that's worthy of extreme praise. 

There's no denying that Gravity is a complete spectacle.

Gravity was not terrible, they got a lot of things right, but they had some very serious math problems.  For a movie based on orbital mechanics, I don't think they pulled out a calculator once.  A cascading debris failure is possible, but here is the thing most non polar orbit satelites orbit in the same direction, meaning the periodicity of the debris field was all wrong.  American space suits fitting through russian doors, poppy cock.  A 13 degree orbital change not at an acending or decending node using only soft landing boosters, pure fantasy (a few hundred m/s delta v will get you no where near that).  And what pray tell caused the chinese station to fall from orbit so quickly.... unless they scuttled the thing (no evidence of that) it is also fantasy.  It takes an hour to get out of a space suit by yourself.  The orbital alignments were impossible.  Jetpacks don't have that much fuel.  Clooney letting go after they stopped stupid... just plain stupid what pray tell was then pulling on him in micro gravity after the interial force had been overcome? Jesus? or jus deus ex machina?

I enjoyed 12 years a slave more, it is at least based on real people and events.   The events depicted in gravity could never happen, ever!

It was pretty cinamatography.



bananaking21 on 04 March 2014
teigaga said:
bananaking21 said:
DamnTastic said:
I agree.
12 years a slave isn't a bad movie, I saw it. But there were moments... like when Solomon is just staring in front of him for like a minute. The movie was good, but at the end I was happy it was over and left me thinking.

Gravity I didn't want to end.

I think 12 years a slave just won because racial tension is still a big thing in the US.


or media still portrays it to be a big issue. racism will never end in the US because the media will never let it, but hey what can you do, racism sells, it makes money. 

lol, racism is real...

it is, im not saying it isnt. bot no where as big as media makes it to be. 



AZWification on 04 March 2014
Wright said:


Certainly 12 years a Slave was a better choice. Though, awards were pretty random, and I hardly agree with anything they gave.

Not even with Frozen winning the  best animated movie award? =(



                
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Kratos on 04 March 2014
SvennoJ said:
Kratos said:
Im just surprised that frozen won something, not a very good movie, but oh well the competition was not too great I believe.

Wolf of the Wall Street deserved the win in my opinion and so did LEO dammit!

The competition was The wind rises!
Problem nobody has seen it yet, came out the 28th and only available in a few theaters.

Oh i cant believe i failed to notice a gibli film in the nominations Shame on me!

I have not seen the film yet, but already I feel like it should have won the oscar for best animated film. Im a huge gibli fan!

Frozen was just.....ugh... so many things wrong it. It was just a very average film for me. 



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Geo on 04 March 2014

And yet 12 Years a Slave is a better film...



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nanarchy on 04 March 2014
Soundwave said:

Gravity isn't science fiction, jeez. Just because a film is set in outer space doesn't make it science fiction, that's like saying Apollo 13 is science fiction.

As the for the Oscars, I thought they rewarded all of 12 Years, Gravity, and Dallas Buyers Club with some fairly prestigious awards. 

I thought Gravity was a good film, but not neccessarily Best Picture without a doubt material. 


How can you not call it science fiction? We had magical tears that float off from her face ignoring the current known laws of physics, we had Jet packs that could traverse vast regions of space (or some mythical world where the space station and hubble weren't many thousands and thousands of miles apart). We had all the communications satelites being taken out and then magically teleporting to a stable orbit of debris 10's of thousands of kilometers below their current geo stationary positions. It was either science fiction or one of the worst researched movies ever made.



Soundwave on 04 March 2014

The writer/director himself says the movie is not science fiction:

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/142360/Director-Of-Gravity-Alfonso-Cuaron-Claims-The-Film-Is-Not-Sci-Fi-Despite-It-Taking-Place-In-Space

It's a drama, that simply happens to center around two astronauts.

A movie centering around a woman lost and trying to survive in the old American west, but has no real other conventions of the genre isn't necessarily a Western just because of the time period/setting. 



Wright on 04 March 2014
AZWification said:
Wright said:


Certainly 12 years a Slave was a better choice. Though, awards were pretty random, and I hardly agree with anything they gave.

Not even with Frozen winning the  best animated movie award? =(


Frozen? A movie that masquerade'd its deficiencies with songs? Songs were great, but that's it.



nanarchy on 04 March 2014
Soundwave said:
The writer/director himself says the movie is not science fiction:

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/142360/Director-Of-Gravity-Alfonso-Cuaron-Claims-The-Film-Is-Not-Sci-Fi-Despite-It-Taking-Place-In-Space

It's a drama, that simply happens to center around two astronauts.

A movie centering around two people in the old American west, but has no real other conventions of the genre isn't necessarily a Western.


science fiction can be drama as well, they are not mutally exclusive. Given the amount of things they imagined up that are either not currently possible with todays technology or the way they changed what is current reality it is science fiction/fantasy whether he intended it to be or not.