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What is his end state

Annex Ukraine As a whole 337 40.60%
 
Annex Crimea 286 34.46%
 
Defend Russian People Fro... 184 22.17%
 
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mai said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Wiki does not allow for crappy sources, so how have those ones slipped through the net as you claim?

This comes from account not associated with Girkin as it claimed:
"Immediately after the crash, a post appeared on the VKontakte social media website attributed to Igor Girkin, leader of the Donbass separatists, claiming responsibility for shooting down an AN-26".

This audiotape is a montage with cuts in the middle of the phrases and all: "Pro-Russian rebels discuss the shooting down of an aircraft" -- by far not the first one from SBU.

From the alleged witness interviewed by Reuters: "The rocket was here, it wiggled around, then some kind of rocket stage separated, and then, somewhere toward Lutuhyne, Torez, I saw the plane fall apart in the air. It was only later that we found out it was a Boeing" -- 9M38, Buk missile, has only one stage, so it can't separate anything. But ok, a witness report it is, why not post half a dozen wintess reports that claim they saw a military airplane there at the moment of the crash?

And so on and so forth.

Wiki is a free content and free access , nothing more, nothing less, therefore allows a lot of crap.


Well keep going. You only have 295 sources to discredit with your opinion. Also you are aware that by trying to discredit some people, you prove yourself wrong e.g. 2 stage missile - no plane carries that sort of missile.



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TheJimbo1234 said:
mai said:

This comes from account not associated with Girkin as it claimed:
"Immediately after the crash, a post appeared on the VKontakte social media website attributed to Igor Girkin, leader of the Donbass separatists, claiming responsibility for shooting down an AN-26".

This audiotape is a montage with cuts in the middle of the phrases and all: "Pro-Russian rebels discuss the shooting down of an aircraft" -- by far not the first one from SBU.

From the alleged witness interviewed by Reuters: "The rocket was here, it wiggled around, then some kind of rocket stage separated, and then, somewhere toward Lutuhyne, Torez, I saw the plane fall apart in the air. It was only later that we found out it was a Boeing" -- 9M38, Buk missile, has only one stage, so it can't separate anything. But ok, a witness report it is, why not post half a dozen wintess reports that claim they saw a military airplane there at the moment of the crash?

And so on and so forth.

Wiki is a free content and free access , nothing more, nothing less, therefore allows a lot of crap.


Well keep going. You only have 295 sources to discredit with your opinion. Also you are aware that by trying to discredit some people, you prove yourself wrong e.g. 2 stage missile - no plane carries that sort of missile.

Sometimes it seems to me that you are speaking with yourself...



Sharu said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Also did you just say that mai is Russian?

oh, you just realise it? Slowpoke is so slow...

My cover has been blown :D And I thought Grand Prince of Moscow and Tsar of All Russias Ivan IV portrayed by Yury Yakovlev on my avy won't give me away.

Sigh, that was yet another inadequate and uncommunicable poster, I'll probably pass after all.



Sharu said:
TheJimbo1234 said:


Well keep going. You only have 295 sources to discredit with your opinion. Also you are aware that by trying to discredit some people, you prove yourself wrong e.g. 2 stage missile - no plane carries that sort of missile.

Sometimes it seems to me that you are speaking with yourself...

Or you people will ignore everything and simply won't accept anything to change your mind.

 

mai said:
Sharu said:

oh, you just realise it? Slowpoke is so slow...

My cover has been blown :D And I thought Grand Prince of Moscow and Tsar of All Russias Ivan IV portrayed by Yury Yakovlev on my avy won't give me away.

Sigh, that was yet another inadequate and uncommunicable poster, I'll probably pass after all.

Or;

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/listeningpost/2015/03/screening-rape-india-debate-150314061724391.html - second part. Yup, you have been busted.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-annexed-crimea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/

Well, the article's headline speaks for itself.