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Justagamer on 01 March 2014

You guys who are so upset by the DF analysis, you should make your own analysis video, so you can accept that one.... And finally move on.



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think-man on 01 March 2014

Who cares it's thief lol, Some games are going to look better on X1 and some are going to look better on PS4. As long as FF15 and KH3 look better on PS4 (which they will) then that's all I care about.



 

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Aerys on 01 March 2014
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Too_Talls said:

DF gave the nod to the bone? noo00 they are fanboys, throw out everything they ever said including all the favorable ps4 comparisons.

Some are sure picky with what they choose to support.


Exactly. If they can't be trusted here, then don't use their word for anything. Well said too talls.

Or both of you could see that from a less childish way, they just made a mistake ( not like if it was their first), because of rushed  comparison about a game nobody care.

Point is, Sony fans would have used this as a point of gloating. What's more childish? Gloating when it suits your needs, or crying foul when it does not? You can't have both! If they're trustworthy one way, then don't claim them to be untrustworthy the other. Simple, not childish. 

Not every situation is the same,you're too manichean and childish in your logic, instead of whining about sony fans , you should attack their legitimate arguments (if you can).

 

 

Facts are :

 

- X1 has a better texture filtering

- PS4 version has a better resolution so less aliasing

- PS4 version has a better framerate

- PS4 version  has pom


Facts are: you're acting like a defensive child. Stop. 

Fact: DF didn't say what you wanted to hear, so you call me a child every time you respond, when it is in fact you acting like a childish fan. Get over yourself. And trying to use big words won't hide how childish and defensive you are being. Fact.

fact: DF came to a conclusion. You didn't like it. That's why you keep coming at me, like a child would..... 

Ultimately, although it's an analisys, it's also an opinion, one you obviously are finding very difficult to accept.

So, you were saying?

Thank you to show i'm right. ( and lol if  "manichean " is a big word for you, sorry to hear that, i'll try to use easier words. )

You're just throwing personal attacks against everyone bringing good arguments because you're not able to do the same ( me, i had some arguments at least, even if you didnt deserve more than what you bring since your first post on this thread), we can easily see you're just upset against sony fans  , so you should follow your own advice and stop acting like a child and bring real argument on the subject instead of settle your accounts here with sony fans, or just stop talking if you cant do that, it would be better for everyone, you're bringing nothing good to this thread except your hate and irrelevant talk.




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Fusioncode on 01 March 2014
Justagamer said:
You guys who are so upset by the DF analysis, you should make your own analysis video, so you can accept that one.... And finally move on.

You can never criticize a game without being a game developer yourself. Don't say anything bad about a movie unless you're a film maker. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Justagamer on 01 March 2014
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Too_Talls said:

DF gave the nod to the bone? noo00 they are fanboys, throw out everything they ever said including all the favorable ps4 comparisons.

Some are sure picky with what they choose to support.


Exactly. If they can't be trusted here, then don't use their word for anything. Well said too talls.

Or both of you could see that from a less childish way, they just made a mistake ( not like if it was their first), because of rushed  comparison about a game nobody care.

Point is, Sony fans would have used this as a point of gloating. What's more childish? Gloating when it suits your needs, or crying foul when it does not? You can't have both! If they're trustworthy one way, then don't claim them to be untrustworthy the other. Simple, not childish. 

Not every situation is the same,you're too manichean and childish in your logic, instead of whining about sony fans , you should attack their legitimate arguments (if you can).

 

 

Facts are :

 

- X1 has a better texture filtering

- PS4 version has a better resolution so less aliasing

- PS4 version has a better framerate

- PS4 version  has pom


Facts are: you're acting like a defensive child. Stop. 

Fact: DF didn't say what you wanted to hear, so you call me a child every time you respond, when it is in fact you acting like a childish fan. Get over yourself. And trying to use big words won't hide how childish and defensive you are being. Fact.

fact: DF came to a conclusion. You didn't like it. That's why you keep coming at me, like a child would..... 

Ultimately, although it's an analisys, it's also an opinion, one you obviously are finding very difficult to accept.

So, you were saying?

Thank you to show i'm right about you.

I'm the only one bringing facts and arguments here while you're just throwing personal attacks against everyone bringing good arguments because you're not able to to the same , so you should take your own advice and stop acting like a child and bring real argument on the subject or just stop talking.

 

PS : and lol if  "manichean " is a big word for you, sorry to hear that, i'll try to use easier words.


The only fact is that you cannot accept their conclusion. Sorry. All of your facts mean nothing, this entire thread is about what DF said, not you. Their opinion is the x1 over ps4, that's the only fact here. And yes, please use smaller words, it's too hard for me to understand! Thanks! Now, if you can just learn to accept DF's opinion, your blood pressure might drop a bit. Here's another idea for you, make your own analysis, so that you can state YOUR opinion as fact.... Because your opinion is fact, right? 



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SpartenOmega117 on 01 March 2014

First of all it's Thief. Thief...

Second- Both versions are pretty bad



Normchacho on 01 March 2014
Justagamer said:
Normchacho said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:




You're really going to sit here and call him a child while attacking him instead of taking part in the debate and actually talking  about the points he brought up? You sir are the child.


The only point brought up is that he, and a few others here, can't accept what they came up with. My point is: GET OVER IT! See? Very simple really. And when he calls me a child, it's not attacking, I use it against him the same way, and that attacking? Please.... The ones upset over this are the childish ones. If that upsets you, well, I can live with that. DF themselves said what he highlights. So what's the points he made? They say the resolution on ps4 is higher, the frame rate is slightly better. But in their OPiNION, probably due to using ancient tri-linear filtering, the x1 version, in their OPINION, looks superior. I can accept opinions, if that's childish, then what's that make you and he? In that case, I'm completely ok with being childish, considering the other option.....

That's not true at all. It's not that they don't accept Digital Foundrys conclusion because they like the PS4. They don't accept it because there are some notable innacuracies/ omnisions from there analasys. Mainly people have an issue with them talking about the texture pop in (the banner gif) even slowing it down in the gif to make it more noticable but then didn't mention anything about the lighting pop in on the Xbox One version that happens just moments after. They also talk about the Xbox One version having POM which it clearly doesn't have.

If the results were cut and dry and they came to the same conclusion it wouldn't be a big deal. It's just a crappy game that nobody wants that runs crappy on both consoles. The issue is that DF seem to have gotten this one wrong. They've done it before, and I'm sure they'll do it again. It happens.

Edit: You're right, it wasn't any better for him (or even me really) to call you a child.



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Justagamer on 01 March 2014
Fusioncode said:
Justagamer said:
You guys who are so upset by the DF analysis, you should make your own analysis video, so you can accept that one.... And finally move on.

You can never criticize a game without being a game developer yourself. Don't say anything bad about a movie unless you're a film maker. 


This isn't about criticizing a game here, so what are you even talking about? This is a criticism of the digitalfoundry analysis, remember? I'm just saying instead of being upset and chastising DF for an opinion, just accept it it for what it is! It's an opinion, that's all. So I don't know what you're going on about, but whatever, carry on!



Justagamer on 01 March 2014
Normchacho said:
Justagamer said:
Normchacho said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:
Aerys said:
Justagamer said:




You're really going to sit here and call him a child while attacking him instead of taking part in the debate and actually talking  about the points he brought up? You sir are the child.


The only point brought up is that he, and a few others here, can't accept what they came up with. My point is: GET OVER IT! See? Very simple really. And when he calls me a child, it's not attacking, I use it against him the same way, and that attacking? Please.... The ones upset over this are the childish ones. If that upsets you, well, I can live with that. DF themselves said what he highlights. So what's the points he made? They say the resolution on ps4 is higher, the frame rate is slightly better. But in their OPiNION, probably due to using ancient tri-linear filtering, the x1 version, in their OPINION, looks superior. I can accept opinions, if that's childish, then what's that make you and he? In that case, I'm completely ok with being childish, considering the other option.....

That's not true at all. It's not that they don't accept Digital Foundrys conclusion because they like the PS4. They don't accept it because there are some notable innacuracies/ omnisions from there analasys. Mainly people have an issue with them talking about the texture pop in (the banner gif) even slowing it down in the gif to make it more noticable but then didn't mention anything about the lighting pop in on the Xbox One version that happens just moments after. They also talk about the Xbox One version having POM which it clearly doesn't have.

If the results were cut and dry and they came to the same conclusion it wouldn't be a big deal. It's just a crappy game that nobody wants that runs crappy on both consoles. The issue is that DF seem to have gotten this one wrong. They've done it before, and I'm sure they'll do it again. It happens.

Edit: You're right, it wasn't any better for him (or even me really) to call you a child.


Thank you. I'm not saying they cant be in disagreement with their analysis either, but no matter what, people can't call anyone's opinion wrong, even if it's a bad opinion. But thanks for understanding where I'm coming from.

edit: I've said all I need to say on this in this thread, I will quietly exit through the back door now....



dane007 on 01 March 2014
FATALITY said:
kowenicki said:
Which is why it ain't all about resolution...

2 in a row now.

PS4 also has better framerate


Thats not true. DF did not do a fair comparison or an average frame rate. If you watch  the video at 1:23 ,, you can ps4 dipping  to 20fps per second while xbox one was not. bsomeone calculated teh average score and tehy both scored same average FPS. The only difference is that xbox one has  sharper floors lol.