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jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
This is terrible, the design is awful and why would you want assymetrical sticks.


Because preferences? Some people are used to Xbox's sticks.


Well they better get used to PS sticks if they wanna use PS4. If you're willing to change systems from 360 to ps4 surely you could adapt to a new controller.


lol wow that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. There's been Xbox styled playstation controllers for years. Some people's hands get cramped or fatigued with symetrical sticks. Its the reason Sony considered changing the PS4 controller to Asymetrical.


lol wow thats one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. If Sony made the DS4 different and fixed the problems people were having, then why the hell would you need a xbox styled PS4 controller when the alleged problems have been fixed? This is the PS4 we're talking about, not PS3. Sony didnt consider assymetrical sticks for PS4, they tested it and they came to the conclusion it's too awful and thats why they sticked with symmetrical sticks.

Sony Saw Sense and Ditched Asymmetrical Sticks for PS4

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/10/sony_saw_sense_and_ditched_asymmetrical_sticks_for_ps4


testing = considering


No its not. Read the article. The controller saw many different prototypes, they even tested Wii U Pro style controllers, just like the Xbone controller went through various prototypes and they definetly had a xbox controller with symmetrical positioned sticks as well.

Sony must've had bad engineers if they didnt test every possible stick and button layouts for their controllers and see what worked best.



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Turkish said:


Opinions how does it work?

I dont trust 3rd party controllers, they're often of terrible quality even from good brand names and even if some are good they are still below the quality of the official controllers.

And like I said above, if you're upgrading from 360 to ps4 and change to a whole different ecosystem, a change in controllers is a small hurdle to overcome, and the DS4 is godly. It's the best controller I've ever used.

Forcing yours on others is not how it works.

Having more options is better for more people and isn't that what you want? More PS4 buyers?



Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:

lol wow thats one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. If Sony made the DS4 different and fixed the problems people were having, then why the hell would you need a xbox styled PS4 controller when the alleged problems have been fixed? This is the PS4 we're talking about, not PS3. Sony didnt consider assymetrical sticks for PS4, they tested it and they came to the conclusion it's too awful and thats why they sticked with symmetrical sticks.

Sony Saw Sense and Ditched Asymmetrical Sticks for PS4

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/10/sony_saw_sense_and_ditched_asymmetrical_sticks_for_ps4


testing = considering


No its not. Read the article. The controller saw many different prototypes, they even tested Wii U Pro style controllers, just like the Xbone controller went through various prototypes and they definetly had a xbox controller with symmetrical positioned sticks as well.

Source?

If so then I would still say that they considered symmetrical sticks. If you take the time to test out something then it was obviously a thought in your mind lol.



Lafiel said:
Turkish said:


Opinions how does it work?

I dont trust 3rd party controllers, they're often of terrible quality even from good brand names and even if some are good they are still below the quality of the official controllers.

And like I said above, if you're upgrading from 360 to ps4 and change to a whole different ecosystem, a change in controllers is a small hurdle to overcome, and the DS4 is godly. It's the best controller I've ever used.

Forcing yours on others is not how it works.

Having more options is better for more people and isn't that what you want? More PS4 buyers?

No Im not forcing my opinion on anybody, the opinion part of my comment is that I claimed it to look awful. How am I forcing it on you? This is an incredibly arrogant thing to say coming from someone who is hating on somebody for his opinion: "extremely shallow to judge a controller by it's looks"

A controller is not a system seller. These options are all niche products to a small audience who changed systems from 360 to ps4 but still somehow cling to the past. Actually, I have yet to hear from 360 people that they didnt like the DS4.



jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:

lol wow thats one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. If Sony made the DS4 different and fixed the problems people were having, then why the hell would you need a xbox styled PS4 controller when the alleged problems have been fixed? This is the PS4 we're talking about, not PS3. Sony didnt consider assymetrical sticks for PS4, they tested it and they came to the conclusion it's too awful and thats why they sticked with symmetrical sticks.

Sony Saw Sense and Ditched Asymmetrical Sticks for PS4

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/10/sony_saw_sense_and_ditched_asymmetrical_sticks_for_ps4


testing = considering


No its not. Read the article. The controller saw many different prototypes, they even tested Wii U Pro style controllers, just like the Xbone controller went through various prototypes and they definetly had a xbox controller with symmetrical positioned sticks as well.

Source?

If so then I would still say that they considered symmetrical sticks. If you take the time to test out something then it was obviously a thought in your mind lol.


Considering they spent 100m dollars(LOL) on the controller alone, its incredibly likely they had a symmetrical setup as well.



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Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:

lol wow thats one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. If Sony made the DS4 different and fixed the problems people were having, then why the hell would you need a xbox styled PS4 controller when the alleged problems have been fixed? This is the PS4 we're talking about, not PS3. Sony didnt consider assymetrical sticks for PS4, they tested it and they came to the conclusion it's too awful and thats why they sticked with symmetrical sticks.

Sony Saw Sense and Ditched Asymmetrical Sticks for PS4

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/10/sony_saw_sense_and_ditched_asymmetrical_sticks_for_ps4


testing = considering


No its not. Read the article. The controller saw many different prototypes, they even tested Wii U Pro style controllers, just like the Xbone controller went through various prototypes and they definetly had a xbox controller with symmetrical positioned sticks as well.

Source?

If so then I would still say that they considered symmetrical sticks. If you take the time to test out something then it was obviously a thought in your mind lol.


Considering they spent 100m dollars(LOL) on the controller alone, its incredibly likely they had a symmetrical setup as well.


And you're even talking about the Xbox One controller? Why would they change the good parts of their controller? Its understandable for Sony because of how horrible the DS3 is. But the only problem the 360 controller had was the D-pad and the bulging battery pack. 100m was spent on improvements, not downgrades.



jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:

lol wow thats one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. If Sony made the DS4 different and fixed the problems people were having, then why the hell would you need a xbox styled PS4 controller when the alleged problems have been fixed? This is the PS4 we're talking about, not PS3. Sony didnt consider assymetrical sticks for PS4, they tested it and they came to the conclusion it's too awful and thats why they sticked with symmetrical sticks.

Sony Saw Sense and Ditched Asymmetrical Sticks for PS4

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/10/sony_saw_sense_and_ditched_asymmetrical_sticks_for_ps4


testing = considering


No its not. Read the article. The controller saw many different prototypes, they even tested Wii U Pro style controllers, just like the Xbone controller went through various prototypes and they definetly had a xbox controller with symmetrical positioned sticks as well.

Source?

If so then I would still say that they considered symmetrical sticks. If you take the time to test out something then it was obviously a thought in your mind lol.


Considering they spent 100m dollars(LOL) on the controller alone, its incredibly likely they had a symmetrical setup as well.


And you're even talking about the Xbox One controller? Why would they change the good parts of their controller? Its understandable for Sony because of how horrible the DS3 is. But the only problem the 360 controller had was the D-pad and the bulging battery pack. 100m was spent on improvements, not downgrades.

Sigh. No one is claiming they'd change the "good parts of the controller". The discussion we're having is whether MS tested all types of possible layouts, whether it's good or bad is not the discussion.



Turkish said:

No Im not forcing my opinion on anybody, the opinion part of my comment is that I claimed it to look awful. How am I forcing it on you? This is an incredibly arrogant thing to say coming from someone who is hating on somebody for his opinion: "extremely shallow to judge a controller by it's looks"

A controller is not a system seller. These options are all niche products to a small audience who changed systems from 360 to ps4 but still somehow cling to the past. Actually, I have yet to hear from 360 people that they didnt like the DS4.

But it is shallow to judge something, which really only needs to function well, by it's looks and by that I meant the "this is terrible" part, not the "the design is awful".In my opion the design is like a normal controller from the 90's btw, nothing wrong with that, but I guess I'm talking to generation iPad here.

Calling me arrogant after your  "Well they better get used to PS sticks if they wanna use PS4" ? Nobody has to get used to DS4 even if they mainly use PS4, because there are other options out there so everbody can find their own ideal setup.

The DS4 might be the best controller for you, it doesn't mean that's the case for everybody else.



Kyuu said:
Wright said:

Aren't the X, Square, Circle and Triangle property of Sony?

Nope!

All they do is copy Nintendo!


....is that a giant stone cock?



Turkish said:
jlmurph2 said:
Turkish said:
This is terrible, the design is awful and why would you want assymetrical sticks.

Because preferences? Some people are used to Xbox's sticks.

Well they better get used to PS sticks if they wanna use PS4. If you're willing to change systems from 360 to ps4 surely you could adapt to a new controller.

This is the arrogant dictating to others what they must do. 

If you just share you preference that you see nothing good in it and are happy with DualShock, thennobody is insulted. 

I personally prefer DS to this 3rd party controller, but I don't make arrogant dismissive domineering statements like that.