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It could happen if MS and Nintendo don't make an effort to turn things around.

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DJEVOLVE said:
poklane said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Xbox One, Just like PS3 will come back and sell very high, They already signaled they will drop price, meaning will well see a price cut in the Fall. Most likely $100 off. This will push numbers very high for XBox One. The launch was very successful and looks like they just need the price to be right. The ones not buying in, obviously think $500 is just to much and to many it is. However $399 would be acceptable I think. So No I don't Think PS4 will get 50% market Share. It's only a matter of time before MS makes some major moves and this will stimulate sales.

Microsoft has never signaled a price drop, the only thing they did is 30 bucks in the UK... Microsoft probably wont do a $100 price drop until they can manufacture the Xbox One for $100 less, or unles they drop the Kinect out of the package (which they wont). Because if they would, you'd start selling the Xbox One at a loss, which is the last thing you want to do.

Last gen they sold for a loss right away, So did PS3 and many platforms before. This is nothing new. Xbox could sell one game and a XBox live subscription and boom they are profitable. They also included Titanfall for free which is a unofficial price drop. They will drop price in the fall. By then the xbox cost should have dropped a little. You act as if this is not possible, it's very possible. Not only that, I think they will be profitable soon after this drop. As a whole it's better then losing market share, This stops game sales and many other things. So the price drop is just a drop in the bucket amoung many other things. If I was them i would sell the Titanfall bundle until fall, then drop $100 in price. Titanfall needs a Xbox Live subscription to play. So this will push profit.

You're thinking 2005. This is happening in a post 2008 world. The days of companies taking $100-200+ losses on consoles with the idea in mind that over several years, they'll make back the losses in licensing fees are over. 

This is not my opinion; this is just the way it is. 

SCE made numerous drops, but the only one that wasn't accompanied by a re-engineered, cheaper to manufacture hardware unit was in late 2007 when the PS3 was on extremely wobbly legs. Even then, the price drop to $500 on original CECH-A01 units was inventory clearing, even as the redesigned units were on their way to market. Every subsequent price drop was accompanied by a re-engineered design with a cheaper BoM/manufacturing cost. 

This is not to say that we won't see a smaller price cut for the original XB1 (we're already seeing an official cut in the UK), but MS made smaller price cuts over the lifecycle of the XB360 ($50) and used software bundles and minor upgrades (HDMI port, larger HDD, etc.) as added incentive while keeping MSRPs the same.

A $100 price cut would likely have to be accompanied by a significantly re-engineered XB1 with a significantly lower BoM. Rumors of a no Kinect SKU or the download only, no optical drive SKU could be sold until the BoM cost on the overall design could be significantly reduced.

But who knows? If sales continue to stagnate over 2013 and the XB brand is starting to look like a bad investment, MS may take bigger losses to save the brand in the hopes of a longer term payoff. 



DJEVOLVE said:

I don't know by the Fall, if this continues they will take a $100 off with no issue. Remember they are taking a hit on the Titanfall bundle with the free game, Why would they do that at all if worried about Profits only. Market share is a huge issue, they know this, so does the board.

It's really not a big loss. 

The Titanfall bundle includes an online voucher (something they did for Kinect bundles) which means no added cost as far as inventory goes, not that a hard copy of a game costs more than $5 produce, but vouchers are still preferable to hardware manufacturers.

Second, and more importantly, Titanfall is for all intents and purposes, an online only game. There is no single player campaign, meaning anyone who wants to play the game will be subscribing to XBL Gold. The bundle comes with 30 days of service. If the buyer wants to keep playing their free game, they'll have to renew. So, Titanfall is actually the perfect game to bundle.



greenmedic88 said:
DJEVOLVE said:

I don't know by the Fall, if this continues they will take a $100 off with no issue. Remember they are taking a hit on the Titanfall bundle with the free game, Why would they do that at all if worried about Profits only. Market share is a huge issue, they know this, so does the board.

It's really not a big loss. 

The Titanfall bundle includes an online voucher (something they did for Kinect bundles) which means no added cost as far as inventory goes, not that a hard copy of a game costs more than $5 produce, but vouchers are still preferable to hardware manufacturers.

Second, and more importantly, Titanfall is for all intents and purposes, an online only game. There is no single player campaign, meaning anyone who wants to play the game will be subscribing to XBL Gold. The bundle comes with 30 days of service. If the buyer wants to keep playing their free game, they'll have to renew. So, Titanfall is actually the perfect game to bundle.

Wouldn't be able to say it better.



Yes. Watch it happen soon.

According to a new study; YouTube, Xbox.com, NeoGaf, N4G, VGChartz, IGN, GameSpot, GameStop, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, All of Europe, FAMITSU, Japan, the rest of Asia and The whole of the Middle East among countless others are experiencing a Tsunami of people in love with Sony's gamings offerings.

Probably. Nintendo is extremely weak this console gen and MS will be a slow starter, that should make it relatively easy for Sony.

I think PS4 will reach 55-60% of Marketshare : XOne is too weak in Europe, Japan and rest of the World and always will be to the end of this Gen; this is why is not possible to compare XOne to PS3 for its come back !  WiiU will do less than GameCube.  My opinion.  



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"with PS4 becoming the 8th gen leader 3 months after launch"

Crystal ball?

and the topic: No.



Zero999 said:

"with PS4 becoming the 8th gen leader 3 months after launch"

Crystal ball?

and the topic: No.


You don't think the PS4 is the leader now? How much do you actually expect Donkey Kong to push?



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.

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Mummelmann said:
Zero999 said:

"with PS4 becoming the 8th gen leader 3 months after launch"

Crystal ball?

and the topic: No.


You don't think the PS4 is the leader now? How much do you actually expect Donkey Kong to push?

"An indefinite increase to the WiiU's sales after the game's release"



According to a new study; YouTube, Xbox.com, NeoGaf, N4G, VGChartz, IGN, GameSpot, GameStop, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, All of Europe, FAMITSU, Japan, the rest of Asia and The whole of the Middle East among countless others are experiencing a Tsunami of people in love with Sony's gamings offerings.