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Stephen Elop May be Bad News for Microsoft’s Xbox Division

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BeatdownBrigade said:
Sure it more than likely Microsoft would not spin off the Xbox division, but those acting like this is completely out of the realm of possibility are being pretty naive. Considering there has been recent rumors of talks with Amazon (whether they are true or not is impossible to tell).

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/15/microsofts-xbox-division-may-be-purchased-by-amazon-according-to-insider/

Couple with the fact that the division isn't exactly racking in a ton of cash, and is such a small piece of Microsoft's overall pie if they got the right deal they would easily dump it especially with its early struggles out the gate and the general consensus that console gaming market is likely to decrease due to mobile and F2P gaming models. I still bet they keep it, or at least ride a few more years into this generation and see how it goes. But I would not be the least bit surprised if they found a more eager company to spin it off to because honestly Xbox isn't that big of a deal to Microsoft. They wouldn't even lose sleep over it.

"While the Xbox One and Xbox 360 sold 3.9 million and 3.5 million units respectively, gross margins for the Devices & Consumer Hardware division were down 46% to $0.4 billion."

This news thread in gaf even already locked

Can't believe someone still use this "news" for something,also people actual care what "famousmortimer" said lol?



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bananaking21 said:
Mr Khan said:
kowenicki said:
How many threads do we need on this? This must be over ten over the last few months now.

Its frankly pretty pathetic and sad that certain users feel the need to keep on posting this nonsense.

I'd like it to be a bannable offense to simply post news items with zero comment from the OP.



We'd lose quite a few people that way.

...might not be a bad idea...


really? so posting news should be bannable? because thats what the suggestion really is.

Only posting news that Kowenicki doesn't like. It's perfectly fine for him to post dozens of articles about Sony's financial status. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

superchunk said:
Still think that worst case scenario is that MS sells "Xbox" under some conditions that it is still somehow an important player in its digital storefront.

Logically someone like Google, Amazon would buy it. But it would also be interesting if Nintendo bought it for the IPs and development talent to hit its most glaring missing content.


Oh my God the meltdowns would be historic! It would genuinely help Nintendo, too. Though it's not clear how well they could integrate it into their brand, or how much boycotting from former Xbox fans would happen. They might want to keep the Xbox brand name alive and separate from Nintendo to minimize both problems, but that would have it's own complications, like trying to support two brands. It'd be interesting to see how they handled it, that's for sure.



there is nothing in this guys history that makes me feel good about anything related with xbo.



 

HylianSwordsman said:
kowenicki said:
How many threads do we need on this? This must be over ten over the last few months now.

Its frankly pretty pathetic and sad that certain users feel the need to keep on posting this nonsense.

I'd like it to be a bannable offense to simply post news items with zero comment from the OP.





I'd second that. The forum doesn't exist to be a news site, it exists for discussion. Rather than just quote the entire article and say nothing else, it should have a link to the article, and a few comments on it, possibly a smaller quote from the article as reference to what the OP is commenting on specifically.


how about no? many people come to this site for news, its much more convenient, just go to one forum to check the news instead of having to go to many other sites to do so. it also happens to be much faster. 

also, what should the ban message say? "banned for reporting some news, you either shut up and dont report it, or we will ban the hell out of you until you speak what you think. if we dont like it, we'll ban you"

sounds like a very intelligent idea. 



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bumping the thread



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Movement at Microsoft to make room for Elop has already happened..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/25/julie_larson_green_makes_way_stephen_elop_microsoft/



"...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out listings of their operating system." - Bill Gates (Microsoft Corporation)

"Hey, Steve, just because you broke into Xerox's house before I did and took the TV doesn't mean I can't go in later and take the stereo." - Bill Gates (Microsoft Corporation)

Bill Gates had Mac prototypes to work from, and he was known to be obsessed with trying to make Windows as good as SAND (Steve's Amazing New Device), as a Microsoft exec named it. It was the Mac that Microsoft took for its blueprint on how to make a GUI.

 

""Windows [n.] - A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.""

Fusioncode said:
bananaking21 said:
Mr Khan said:
kowenicki said:
How many threads do we need on this? This must be over ten over the last few months now.

Its frankly pretty pathetic and sad that certain users feel the need to keep on posting this nonsense.

I'd like it to be a bannable offense to simply post news items with zero comment from the OP.



We'd lose quite a few people that way.

...might not be a bad idea...


really? so posting news should be bannable? because thats what the suggestion really is.

Only posting news that Kowenicki doesn't like. It's perfectly fine for him to post dozens of articles about Sony's financial status. 

So long as it was applied fairly across the board to everyone, it wouldn't be so bad though, right? Think about it, every fandom gets doom threads thrown at it that are nothing but a quote of an entire news article, with no comment from the OP. It's bullshit. If it's that newsworthy, it'll end up on the site anyway on the main page, either as one of the site's articles or as an N4G link. If it really warrents discussion, then god damn it the thread author should have to contribute to the discussion, not just spread what is often worthless clickbait articles. Bad news is one thing, and if bad news happens it needs to be known, but a forum is a place for discussion, not just a place to get your news. I find it really annoying the amount of clickbait news threads with an inflammatory headline that come through, only for the OP to not have anything but a big quote of the article so that the author can just fap to fanboy tears. It's flamebaiting no matter what company it's directed at. When an OP instead has a link to the article, with the author's thoughts on it, and maybe a few relevant smaller quotes, I don't mind as much, even when it's Nintendoom.



bananaking21 said:
HylianSwordsman said:
kowenicki said:
How many threads do we need on this? This must be over ten over the last few months now.

Its frankly pretty pathetic and sad that certain users feel the need to keep on posting this nonsense.

I'd like it to be a bannable offense to simply post news items with zero comment from the OP.





I'd second that. The forum doesn't exist to be a news site, it exists for discussion. Rather than just quote the entire article and say nothing else, it should have a link to the article, and a few comments on it, possibly a smaller quote from the article as reference to what the OP is commenting on specifically.


how about no? many people come to this site for news, its much more convenient, just go to one forum to check the news instead of having to go to many other sites to do so. it also happens to be much faster. 

also, what should the ban message say? "banned for reporting some news, you either shut up and dont report it, or we will ban the hell out of you until you speak what you think. if we dont like it, we'll ban you"

sounds like a very intelligent idea. 


See my response to Fusioncode. I see the potential for abuse, but the idea isn't just to ban news, but to ban news that's nothing but clickbait with inflammatory titles to fap to fanboy tears. I know I at least find it slightly less annoying when a Nintendoom clickbait article isn't just a quote of the article, but actually has the authors thoughts on the article instead. Such threads are rare, but they shouldn't be. If you're gonna post in a forum, it should be to promote discussion, not just to create another outlet for news. But if you really want to see news in the forum, then I think it's reasonable to just have it as a link in the OP instead of a quote of the article with no other thoughts. I do understand your point though. I too like to see news on the site, but I tend to find it on the main page, or in an official thread for news that has a bunch of relevant news links.



I'm much more interested in what his business philosophies are. No one sane is going to look at his past actions and think he'd purposely kill XBOX, but we should be able to look at his past actions and see how he tried to handle saving Nokia. Is he going to push for the same strategies, or maybe take a different approach since last time it didn't work?

Those are better things to think about.