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What do you think about Nintendo's attitude?

Awful, they should fail i... 189 14.04%
 
Pretty Bad, they should l... 385 28.60%
 
Not bad, they're just as anybody else 188 13.97%
 
Good, we need more like them 389 28.90%
 
Excellent, they don't need to change one bit 173 12.85%
 
Total:1,324

I agree that Nintendo haven't invested enough back to us, but this is business. They have a way to do it, and unlike sony and ms way it isn't currently making tons of devs go bankrupt.

I will say though, you make it seem as the N64 and the GC was weak systems compared to their respective competitors. That is completely wrong, both those systems were plwerful for their time, the GC being more powerful than the PS2 forexample. As the gamers didn't pay their "debt" to nintendo for being more powerful and pushing gaming forward, they didn't see the need to pay back with wii.



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Zod95 said:
0815user said:
thanks for showing the detailed, ugly, factproofen truth behind nintendo. if i wasn't too lazy i would have posted something like this a while ago. again, thank you very much for this. i appreciate the effort you put into this.

You're welcome. I really needed to gather all this information and post it in a thread. One of the greatest mysteries to me is why there still are so many people prasing Nintendo. I hope that with this people become more informed.

i don't think there are a lot of them but those who are, are sure very vocal.



RenderMonk said:
So someone takes the time to plot out some serious thought on paper, and share it with their fellow gamers....and the best response that you guys can muster is "tldr".


Because that's what that post really deserves, heck "tdlr" is pretty generous to be honest.

Have you been curious going into gaming journalism, you would be ace OP...



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I can't quote anything, work computer is acting funny, might reply more in depth when I get home.

One thing though, you used sources to help give legitimacy to your points, but you didn't use any citations. I can't see where you are backing up your opinions with facts, and a lot of your points seem a lot more like opinions. It is your opinion, for instance, that a game like Uncharted is a better game then New Super Mario Bros. Now, I would tend to agree with that, but that doesn't make it fact. Without game budgets, we can also not truly know how much money a company is putting into their games. Compile this information then we can talk.

Sony was also never cutting edge until the PS3, and has often used their systems as a Trojan horse to insert their other products into your home (like Blue Ray) which I always found somewhat malicious. Like I said before, business are not out to help us, nor do they owe us anything.



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What do the morning after a White Castle binge and the OP have in common? Both are very long poop sessions. =D

TLDR = Fanboy writing his opinion about rival gaming platform, as if anyone in the world cared. =P

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DarkD said:
TLDR most of it, glossed over some of it.

He's basically claiming Nintendo has been abusing the gaming industry to make absurd profits at the cost of gamers and developers. It's mostly bullshit. He claims that because Nintendo has a profit margin unlike Sony and Microsoft that they should be ostracized from the gaming industry. Sony would be making money too if their games sold more than a couple million...

Nintendo is the only one who is actually trying to come up with a way of making money off of home consoles in the future. The other two know damn well this will probably be the last generation that this graphics model will work. Why do you think everyone was so convinced DRM was gonna be standard for all the consoles this generation.

Nintendo was really bad in the NES and SNES eras, that's true, but that's how the playstation came into power. Say what you want about Nintendo 20 years ago, but right now Sony and Microsoft are bankrupting developers left and right.

bolded: wrong, I've never claimed such a thing and Nintendo is not the best prepared for the future among the 3 console makers.

underlined: how can you claim such a thing?



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0815user said:
thanks for showing the detailed, ugly, factproofen truth behind nintendo. if i wasn't too lazy i would have posted something like this a while ago. again, thank you very much for this. i appreciate the effort you put into this.


Some of the points border on self parody.

Really, really terrible.

It will be interesting to see who will flock to this thread, just to see which person is best ignored.......OH, found one !

Edit: And vile shit like this is why I don´t visit the console wars threads anymore.



Zod95 said:

Ok, so if there is game A and B:

- Game A has, in your opinion, 7/10 in quality / replay value and the producer uses the profits to create another title, game C also with 7/10

- Game B has, in your opinion, 8/10 in quality / replay value and the producer keeps the money.

If you can only opt by one of them, you choose game B, right?

 

cannonballZ said:

Where did you pull that from!?! Gamers have a debt? We owe nothing to ms.

Why do you think I used "" when writting "debt"?

 

cannonballZ said:

Just scrolling through this mess it's easy to pint out the bias in this article. We get it, Nintendo and MS = bad for gamers.

You do know Sony has a ton of exclusives too. Great ones I might add. As a gamer, I only care for games, I buy all consoles because I LOVE video games. I don't care what people think about MS, Ninty or Sony. At the end of the day, I will play any good game on any system available. Nintendo, MS and Sony have provided me with tons of hours of great gaming and I will continue to support all three as long as they make consoles and games.

Ok, but not everybody can afford all the 3 platforms. For those people (by the way, the majority) exclusives are not a good thing. Sure Sony also has some. But the text doesn't deny it. The text tells you what Nintendo does further than others.


You do make some valid points, but you also paint them in a very bad way. And for the most part I feel it's unnecessary to feel like they owe me or that I should despise Nintendo. And I don't see anything wrong with exclusives.

 

Every one of your paragraphs is titled with painting them in a bad picture, as "harming" gamers. I don't feel that way at all. I do feel they are behind in times, but this entire article is a bit exaggerated. The context of each is the same- Nintendo is harming gamers. And I just don't see it that way. Gamers have a choice whether to buy their products or not. They aren't harming anyone but themselves with their attitude, which I agree is a bit s****y. But to say they are harming gamers is false.

 

Harming 3rd party? 3rd party also harmed themselves on Nintendo consoles also. Sure Ninty gets most of the blame on that one, but that goes both ways. What you consider "truth" is what I consider opinion. Not all gamers are broke and need to choose between consoles. Most gamers choose which console to get first and get a second console down the line anyway. Of all the friends I have that are gamers, I know of only one that games on one console only and it's not Nintendo. 



Good god man! This has to be the longest OP I've ever seen on here. O_O



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