Note didn't read who you were responding to but will take what you said as face value.

"I Agree with this, kid should never be forced to learn religion, this should be a choice at 16y or later."

Funny how you said we shouldn't force religion(don't even know what you mean by that) on your own children. Basically, you are saying we shouldn't let parents teach there children something you deem relevant. Hello, Stalin nation!

Christianity for many people and the advancement western morality was based on the bible. Anyone who disagrees is ignorant of history of ethics of western world. 

"I learned the bible for over 3 years, and i don't see how they  can trust this, so many error, forged, and go on"

No offense but did you read the bible with scholarly help or just as fundamentalist(reading with no understanding of the world at that time). Something tells me the latter. Many of those errors come from people reading the bible like a simplistic child. What I mean by that is doing no research or critical thinking. Forged argument is based on no facts because we have scholars that can tell you who are atheist and christian that the bible we have today is 99% accurate to original text.We have hundreds of manuscripts. I can already tell you have no clue on what your talking about professionally and only riding slogan you heard. Next your going to tell me Jesus never existed.

" But i don't say there is no god, the probability is just very very low to me."

You are entitled to your unfounded assertions based on nothing.

"My girlfriend have a son who is homosexual, she trust in god, and have no problem with this or me who not trust in god, you just need to learn how to tolerate thing around you, and not make this personal."

What argument is this? So, if I accepted my brother was into incest does that mean you will tolerate it? No. People have different standards for things and it seems you really have none if you think that's a vaild argument. I could use that same argument to justify any action.

Second, you contradicted yourself when you talk about tolerance when you said earlier you wanted others to be forced to what you believe. Remember "parents shouldn't teach them them religion until 16 years old." That sounded real tolerant of religious people. Some would say that sounded very 'bigot' like. Tell people have to take care of there own children and what morality they want to teach them. Sounds like you just want to control anyone who isn't atheist. What if I said the same that parents shouldn't teach there children to be atheist because I personally feel it's dangarous? I would be called a bigot.

Third of all you give no reason why your own standards are better than Christianity. You just assert that it's worst. Tell me why on atheism morality isn't just something that is completely subjective. If it is subjective than why are you upset since everything relative. It's real easy to give critism towards Christianity standards when you have none.

Sorry for double post you can merge the two mods.

I'm a gay man and I don't like most gay parades. I find the people there too vulgar from the pictures I've seen (both from the media and from gay friends from fb). I went once to a parade and didn't like the people there either. Too much nudity and over the top acts. 

The idea of a parade though is not bad. The parade is supposed to raise awareness. It's supposed to encourage people, primarily young kids/teenagers to be ok with who they are. There's still oppression of gays especially at school, while no one gets beaten up for saying they're straight. A straight parade would make no sense, since they have no rights to fight for. They don't experience violence or discrimination for being straight (maybe for being fat, nerdy, not clever etc, but not straight). They're not supposed to go and proclaim their sexuality, but to show to the world that they don't think that they have anything to be ashamed of. Needless to say, you're not offensive at all. I get why people don't like or understand them. 

Just want reply to this, because my english is far from good and i may make ppl missunderstand me, i can read english perfectly but cant write this well (its why i have so few post with many years here ^^)

 But i said i learned the bible i don't have said i have read only this, this was with a teacher.

but i can list you 100more error if you wanna and some can be read only with bible.  Like judas who have 2 different death one in acte and one in matt, unless him have resurect and died 2time its just impossible, so who lie ? act or matt ? etc etc

And bible is said as divine inspiration, so there can't be error, or god make error.

double post. 

Though I wanna add, that Apple just got a lot of respect from me. 

Somebody call the WHAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE......oh no imagine that, a state is RESTORING THE FREEDOM to businesses to serve who they want.

Okay I haven't read the bill, so I can only go by what was said in this article. But if all this bill does is allow business owners to discriminate AS THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO...then I have no problem with it.

Okay so say you're a gay guy visiting Arizona. You try to stop in at Restaurant A for a nice dinner but they refuse you service...then tell them to go fuck themselves, and go across the street to Restaurant B, or down the road to Restaurant C....whichever one will serve gays, and give that non-homophobic restaurant owner your money instead!!!

Look, I don't support discrimination or hate. But what I do support is RIGHTS and FREEDOMS of business owners. If they want to be a douchebag and refuse service based on personal hate then so be it....and watch as your business gets negative press, loses reputation, loses customers, and hopefully go out of business. This new bill is actually a good thing for gays, it'll help put homophobic businesses out of practice.

Just wanted to say this to you. You are way off man! Your English is quite excellent, and should never refrain from posting because of errors! There are people whose use of English are far worse than yours, and it's their first language! Now, about the bible, I've never read it, so have nothing to add to that subject......

English isn't this person first language so take their message with a certain amount of leniency. For example, learning in the first sentence really should be 'follow. We shouldn't force a child to follow a religion but we should teach them about all faiths so they can understand and respect them better. And 'tolerate' in the final sentence would work better if it was 'accept'.

Not trying tp put words in his mouth but his point was that even though he is athiest and his girlfriend religious, they are respectful towards people and this is the most important thing.

Thank you for understanding where I'm coming from. I didn't clarify what I meant about what I dislike about the parades, but you did that for me quite well! I failed to mention that the reason I dislike them is for the same reasons you said, over the top, overly sexual behavior(making out everywhere, and more), not that kissing is bad, just as with any couple, gay or straight, it's about right time right place. My example of a straight parade was just to exemplify what I meant: it wouldn't be acceptable to me if the were just being naked, and sucking face up and down, just to demonstrate their.... Straightness?... People are different the world over, and like and love what and who they want. People need to let everyone be free and feel free to do what they want. And again, thank you for understanding!

While i do agree with you, it is a slippery slope.  I mean right now we allow business to deny service to people for not wearing shirts, not wearing a tie, waring a baseball cap backwards, ect.  Bascially for not fitting their dress code.

But if we start getting into denying people for religious beliefs, or sexual orientation, how long until we are back onto having white only water fountains, ect.

If this law does get passed I hope for one that the business that refuse gays go out of business. i  hope that the capitlistic envirionment makes this law pointless.  The consumers cast their own vote by not eating or going to establishments that refuse gay entry.  

I'm all for giving business' rights, but I hope that us consumers are smart enough to vote our wallets away from stupid laws.  

Heck let this law pass, then let every business who is stupid enough to deny gays loose a shit ton of money and go out of business.  That would almost be the best.  The law may acutally benefit mankind by putting those idiots out of business and take away thier money.

Thanks but, i usually have to do many thinking, rewrite + edit and some time google translate, because i don't learned the word while playing english game with a dictionnary ^^ so more easy to just read, and if i see a point to talk i try ^^

Anyway i wish, everyone would just be happy with their live and not take care about other as much as now.