kidvizious said:
Zappykins said:
kidvizious said:
Of course the bill is bullshit but storeowners do have to right to refuse order to anyone for whatever their reason is. It is their business. If they don't like gays in their store/restraunt they do have the right to refuse service. That's part of the United States. Jews can be refused service as can Christians as can 5 year olds as can anyone if the store owner does not want to do business with someone for whatever reason.
You may think it's wrong but that's the way it is due to the people's beliefs. and that is something that can't be taken away from them.
Edit: and I say this all because I see LGBT supporters and anit-LBGT supporters attacking each other and insulting one another due to these differences instead of just accepting that they don't agree. Everything from religion to upbringings to races are being attacked with some even being banned. Why discuss or bring the topic if people who disagree are going to be banned or people agree will be banned? That is the ultimate hypocrisy.
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Actually it's not that simple. This was shown during the 60's when people refused to serve people of colour in restaurants. If you engage in public service, you can refused service on a individual, but you can not refuse a group of people because of prejudice. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 doesn't address homosexuality so yes, you actually can refuse a person service for whatever reason as long as it doesn't violate the Act.
What this law does is change that. So what would be illegal - say to refuse to service people with blue eyes - would now be legal if you have a religious reason - no matter how feeble. So if you follow the Bible women having their monthly cycles could be consider unclean and throw out of your business if you want. Eye color is completely different from sexual orientation which is addressed in religious scriptures.
But as others have pointed out, it's really hiding behind one's religion to discriminate, as it wouldn't be clearly illegal without the law. There is the attack on religion again for the people that do not agree with the lifestyle.
And what’s happening is some uses prejudices are being exposed. They are not being respectful and they are getting themselves in trouble. Well let them get in "trouble". In trouble for what? For being against LGBT?
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This post summed everything that is wrong with this and the hypocrisy. Instead of accepting that people don't agree, people are getting in "trouble", religion is being attacked, and people are fighting. This is completely against the core idea of LGBT which is acceptance.
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Not sure if you understand what the word "hypocricy" means. It seems to get thrown around here whenever someone wants to insult someone and does not have a strong argument against them. There's nothing hypocritical about the bolded or anything you mentioned about LGBT organizations. If LGBT teams fought for equality and then asked to remove the right from straight people to get married, that would be hypocritical. Same if they had stores where they denied service to straight couples. Had they accepted the way they were being treated back in the 70's, things would be massively diffrent now. It's acceptance through fight for equal rights. If they don't do anything about this law, they'd send the wrong message.
Had they not said anything when Tracy Jordan joked about stabbing his son if he were gay, homophobic celebrities would say all sorts of things that severely hurt especially young people's feelings (some of whom commit suicide) and also influence heterosexual people's perception of homosexuals. Saying something homophobic is not acceptance. Now if a gay celebrity made heterophobic comments and they applauded them, then that would be hypocricy and lack of acceptance on their part.
Denying service to a group of people because of their race, sexual orientation, gender etc is by all means dangerous and people need to fight against it. You might not have experienced discrimination, but trust me, it's a terrible thing.
As for gay gaming conventions, I get it. It's people who think that the LGBT community is severely underrepresented in video games and want to show that there is an audience for such games. It can also help single people to find other gay men/women who are interested in video games. From my experience that's pretty rare. Just like gay clubs, I'm sure straight people can attend such events, as long as they are respectful of LGBT people.
