I think most of us have come to realize that the Wii U will be thankful just to pull Gamecube numbers, but is there anyone who still thinks a turnaround is possible? If so, post why you think so! Maybe it's something we've all overlooked!

Depends on how many units = saved...

If your comparing it to gamecube, then yea, but ur comparing it to the wii, than no, if its n64, than maybe

No.
Wii U sell 40 million.

I keep thinking that people overestimate Mario Kart. It will move units, but they won't make a difference in the long-term and it will be the worst selling MK ever.

Smash Bros, on the other hand. That might give WiiU a chance! :3

There are still plenty of people who believe this.

I don't see mario kart or smash bros selling more than 5-10 million lifetime. These games will increase sales, a bit, but they cannot possibly save the wiiu. 20 million wiiu buyers will not come from the 5 or so million that bought these games. Though the entirety of the library may, by including these games...

what is turnaround? Its still under GC numbers and that was considered a failure. anything that is close to N64 would be good numbers, but I dont think thats whats going to happen.

These great games won't save the Wii U. Only Nintendo can save the Wii U. Not developing games but a change of mind.

No not really. Nintendo should just focus on games and profitability. It has enough IPs in every genre to keep people busy for a few years. The system itself will be lucky to cross 20 mil lifetime.

I don't want to say no, but no. It is a shame really because I will be picking up a $200 wii u with these 2 games.