By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Is Halo still big enough to save the X1?

Kongfucius on 22 February 2014
zorg1000 said:
Kongfucius said:
zorg1000 said:
OttoniBastos said:
arcane_chaos said:
No, there is no one game that suddenly lifts a console and then sustains that sia rise in hardware sales. no doubt Halo will have a big week for both software and hardware, but it won't be what keeps the XB1 afloat if sad turn-around happens

Monster hunter for 3ds? Pokemon X Y?

Monster Hunter 3G released around the same time as a price cut, Mario Kart and 3D Land.

Pokemon X/Y and Monster Hunter 4 released when 3DS already had 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Resident Evil Revelations, Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Nintendogs+Cats, DKC Returns 3D, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Quest Monsters, Tomadachi, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts 3D, and a whole bunch more.

There was no single game that suddenly helped 3DS, it was a combination of affordable price plus consistant schedule of quality software.


This... So very much this.

I just saw u gave him pretty much the same answer, great minds think alike

But ya I dont get why some think the majority of people buy a system for 1-2 specific games. Halo is certainly a big franchise and will push consoles but if u look, 360 sold over 50m more than Xbox yet Halo only saw a 3m increase. That shows Halo doesnt need a huge install base in order to sell extremely well.

Exactly, for example both PS3 and Vita have Uncharted games, but one has done way better than the other. The reason? Look at the rest of the PS3 catalogue compared to the Vita one

So yeah, you tell him :)



Around the Network
jlmurph2 on 22 February 2014
JoeTheBro said:
kowenicki said:
JoeTheBro said:
It's still next year. OXM was just repeating the official 2014 date from before.

Also maybe? Halo 4 certainly didn't help the franchise.


This again.

Halo 4 is 9m at retail already (fastest) plus god know how many downloads, easily over 10m already is likely.


It released on a much larger user base. It has bigger initial sales at the cost of worse legs. Instead just look at its reception.

Halo fans unanimously agree it's the worst of the main games. It has the worst metacritic of the main games. Its online community completely disappeared shortly after launch.

So you think Halo 4 made the franchise stronger?


For 343's 1st main game, I'd say they did great considering they have been listening to feedback so Halo 5 can be great for the fans. Also with having a much better story than CE, 2, and Reach that's a great success.



Slimebeast on 23 February 2014
Sardauk said:
Slimebeast said:
DarkD said:
Doesn't stand a chance. Microsoft doesn't have an entry point into the market really. They should have exited this generation. Instead they went all in on Kinect... That was Microsofts ray of hope, but do any of you really think the Kinect has or will save the XBox division? Halo will increase sales, but it isn't saving anything. Microsoft is just trying to recoup their losses this generation before exiting next gen. It's pretty much a guarantee at this point.

Agree. ALl numbers suggest it is game over for Xbone and I believe Microsft has realized this and are heavily at work to get rid of the Xbox brand (and smartphones and tablets).

Most likely we will see Xbox being sold or terminated in 2014 but it could also slip to 2015 since these decisions take time.

Remember you heard it here first.


Ok so game over for Microsoft ?

Because getting rid of videogames, smartphones and tablets doesn't leave a lot of products to sell...

But videogames, smartphones and tablets combined have so far made up less than 10% of total Microsoft revenue. With the Nokia aquisition it becomes perhaps 20% but that's still not very much.

The devices strategy hasn't benefited MS and the board knows this, investors know this and if the new CEO realizes this they will get rid of Xbox and smartphones alltogether and continue with the profitable WIndows/Office business.

Do you honestly see a future for MS hardware devices? I've never seen anyone own a Zune device or WIndows Phone device or Widnows Surface tablet and today I've never even seen anybody own a Xbox One, so I think the future of MS hardware looks dark.



curl-6 on 23 February 2014

Xbox One doesn't need saving.



Nate4Drake on 23 February 2014
endimion said:
What saving...??? Xbox one is still the most profitable console MS did... It doesn't need saving what so ever... It'll be just fine don't worry...

Well, considering how low figures are in Europe, I would be worried.  It's not only a matter to be profitable; you need to sell consoles and have a big market share, otherwise you end like XBox1. But it's still too early to say XOne is doomed or finished or whatever. Sure MS is not in a very good position with this One, considering the price and performance of this machine. We'll see.



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

Around the Network
AndreRichards on 23 February 2014

I think the Halo series lost a lot of steam in the last few iterations. That's not to say they're bad games. They're just not as "must have" as it seemed at first. No way will such an old and tired franchise pull the X1 out of its death spiral. It's going to take something a lot more exciting and interesting and, honestly, I don't see any X1 exclusives in the near future that scream "killer app" to me. And frankly, all the attention Titanfall is getting seems a little contrived. 



Pemalite on 23 February 2014
AndreRichards said:

I think the Halo series lost a lot of steam in the last few iterations. That's not to say they're bad games. They're just not as "must have" as it seemed at first. No way will such an old and tired franchise pull the X1 out of its death spiral. It's going to take something a lot more exciting and interesting and, honestly, I don't see any X1 exclusives in the near future that scream "killer app" to me. And frankly, all the attention Titanfall is getting seems a little contrived. 


I concur.

I own every single halo game on every single platform it's ever been released on.

To me it feels like the Multiplayer has been "Codified" removing some of it's more strategic elements. (Like power-up pickups in strategic locations that are worth defending. - I.E. Halo 3 vs Halo 4.)
The story has also somewhat become a little convoluted.
However, I still look forward to each iteration and it is going to be the primary reason for myself to go grab an Xbox One, they are certainly not "bad" games, but the anticipation that I had compared to the older titles has started to wane.

Still, I would be more than happy to pass over the Xbox One if it wasn't for Halo and Fable franchises, but Microsoft doesn't give me the option of playing those games on the PC unfortunatly.



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--

Fusioncode on 23 February 2014

Nope. Game of the millennium Titanfall will save the XBO.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Nate4Drake on 23 February 2014
Fusioncode said:
Nope. Game of the millennium Titanfall will save the XBO.


Which millenium ? From 1000 to 1999 ? :)



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

Fusioncode on 23 February 2014
Nate4Drake said:
Fusioncode said:
Nope. Game of the millennium Titanfall will save the XBO.


Which millenium ? From 1000 to 1999 ? :)

All milleniums. Have you seen Titanfall?



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!