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OttoniBastos said:
arcane_chaos said:
No, there is no one game that suddenly lifts a console and then sustains that sia rise in hardware sales. no doubt Halo will have a big week for both software and hardware, but it won't be what keeps the XB1 afloat if sad turn-around happens

Monster hunter for 3ds? Pokemon X Y?

Monster Hunter 3G released around the same time as a price cut, Mario Kart and 3D Land.

Pokemon X/Y and Monster Hunter 4 released when 3DS already had 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Resident Evil Revelations, Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Nintendogs+Cats, DKC Returns 3D, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Quest Monsters, Tomadachi, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts 3D, and a whole bunch more.

There was no single game that suddenly helped 3DS, it was a combination of affordable price plus consistant schedule of quality software.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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zorg1000 said:
OttoniBastos said:
arcane_chaos said:
No, there is no one game that suddenly lifts a console and then sustains that sia rise in hardware sales. no doubt Halo will have a big week for both software and hardware, but it won't be what keeps the XB1 afloat if sad turn-around happens

Monster hunter for 3ds? Pokemon X Y?

Monster Hunter 3G released around the same time as a price cut, Mario Kart and 3D Land.

Pokemon X/Y and Monster Hunter 4 released when 3DS already had 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Resident Evil Revelations, Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Nintendogs+Cats, DKC Returns 3D, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Quest Monsters, Tomadachi, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts 3D, and a whole bunch more.

There was no single game that suddenly helped 3DS, it was a combination of affordable price plus consistant schedule of quality software.


This... So very much this.



DarkD said:
Doesn't stand a chance. Microsoft doesn't have an entry point into the market really. They should have exited this generation. Instead they went all in on Kinect... That was Microsofts ray of hope, but do any of you really think the Kinect has or will save the XBox division? Halo will increase sales, but it isn't saving anything. Microsoft is just trying to recoup their losses this generation before exiting next gen. It's pretty much a guarantee at this point.


It doesn't make sense...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

DarkD said:
Doesn't stand a chance. Microsoft doesn't have an entry point into the market really. They should have exited this generation. Instead they went all in on Kinect... That was Microsofts ray of hope, but do any of you really think the Kinect has or will save the XBox division? Halo will increase sales, but it isn't saving anything. Microsoft is just trying to recoup their losses this generation before exiting next gen. It's pretty much a guarantee at this point.

Agree. ALl numbers suggest it is game over for Xbone and I believe Microsft has realized this and are heavily at work to get rid of the Xbox brand (and smartphones and tablets).

Most likely we will see Xbox being sold or terminated in 2014 but it could also slip to 2015 since these decisions take time.

Remember you heard it here first.



Kongfucius said:
zorg1000 said:
OttoniBastos said:
arcane_chaos said:
No, there is no one game that suddenly lifts a console and then sustains that sia rise in hardware sales. no doubt Halo will have a big week for both software and hardware, but it won't be what keeps the XB1 afloat if sad turn-around happens

Monster hunter for 3ds? Pokemon X Y?

Monster Hunter 3G released around the same time as a price cut, Mario Kart and 3D Land.

Pokemon X/Y and Monster Hunter 4 released when 3DS already had 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Resident Evil Revelations, Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Nintendogs+Cats, DKC Returns 3D, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Quest Monsters, Tomadachi, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts 3D, and a whole bunch more.

There was no single game that suddenly helped 3DS, it was a combination of affordable price plus consistant schedule of quality software.


This... So very much this.

I just saw u gave him pretty much the same answer, great minds think alike

But ya I dont get why some think the majority of people buy a system for 1-2 specific games. Halo is certainly a big franchise and will push consoles but if u look, 360 sold over 50m more than Xbox yet Halo only saw a 3m increase. That shows Halo doesnt need a huge install base in order to sell extremely well.



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Slimebeast said:
DarkD said:
Doesn't stand a chance. Microsoft doesn't have an entry point into the market really. They should have exited this generation. Instead they went all in on Kinect... That was Microsofts ray of hope, but do any of you really think the Kinect has or will save the XBox division? Halo will increase sales, but it isn't saving anything. Microsoft is just trying to recoup their losses this generation before exiting next gen. It's pretty much a guarantee at this point.

Agree. ALl numbers suggest it is game over for Xbone and I believe Microsft has realized this and are heavily at work to get rid of the Xbox brand (and smartphones and tablets).

Most likely we will see Xbox being sold or terminated in 2014 but it could also slip to 2015 since these decisions take time.

Remember you heard it here first.


Ok so game over for Microsoft ?

Because getting rid of videogames, smartphones and tablets doesn't leave a lot of products to sell...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

Halo wont save the console itself, not one exclusive can do that.



zorg1000 said:
Kongfucius said:
zorg1000 said:
OttoniBastos said:
arcane_chaos said:
No, there is no one game that suddenly lifts a console and then sustains that sia rise in hardware sales. no doubt Halo will have a big week for both software and hardware, but it won't be what keeps the XB1 afloat if sad turn-around happens

Monster hunter for 3ds? Pokemon X Y?

Monster Hunter 3G released around the same time as a price cut, Mario Kart and 3D Land.

Pokemon X/Y and Monster Hunter 4 released when 3DS already had 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Resident Evil Revelations, Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Nintendogs+Cats, DKC Returns 3D, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Quest Monsters, Tomadachi, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts 3D, and a whole bunch more.

There was no single game that suddenly helped 3DS, it was a combination of affordable price plus consistant schedule of quality software.


This... So very much this.

I just saw u gave him pretty much the same answer, great minds think alike

But ya I dont get why some think the majority of people buy a system for 1-2 specific games. Halo is certainly a big franchise and will push consoles but if u look, 360 sold over 50m more than Xbox yet Halo only saw a 3m increase. That shows Halo doesnt need a huge install base in order to sell extremely well.

Exactly, for example both PS3 and Vita have Uncharted games, but one has done way better than the other. The reason? Look at the rest of the PS3 catalogue compared to the Vita one

So yeah, you tell him :)



JoeTheBro said:
kowenicki said:
JoeTheBro said:
It's still next year. OXM was just repeating the official 2014 date from before.

Also maybe? Halo 4 certainly didn't help the franchise.


This again.

Halo 4 is 9m at retail already (fastest) plus god know how many downloads, easily over 10m already is likely.


It released on a much larger user base. It has bigger initial sales at the cost of worse legs. Instead just look at its reception.

Halo fans unanimously agree it's the worst of the main games. It has the worst metacritic of the main games. Its online community completely disappeared shortly after launch.

So you think Halo 4 made the franchise stronger?


For 343's 1st main game, I'd say they did great considering they have been listening to feedback so Halo 5 can be great for the fans. Also with having a much better story than CE, 2, and Reach that's a great success.



Sardauk said:
Slimebeast said:
DarkD said:
Doesn't stand a chance. Microsoft doesn't have an entry point into the market really. They should have exited this generation. Instead they went all in on Kinect... That was Microsofts ray of hope, but do any of you really think the Kinect has or will save the XBox division? Halo will increase sales, but it isn't saving anything. Microsoft is just trying to recoup their losses this generation before exiting next gen. It's pretty much a guarantee at this point.

Agree. ALl numbers suggest it is game over for Xbone and I believe Microsft has realized this and are heavily at work to get rid of the Xbox brand (and smartphones and tablets).

Most likely we will see Xbox being sold or terminated in 2014 but it could also slip to 2015 since these decisions take time.

Remember you heard it here first.


Ok so game over for Microsoft ?

Because getting rid of videogames, smartphones and tablets doesn't leave a lot of products to sell...

But videogames, smartphones and tablets combined have so far made up less than 10% of total Microsoft revenue. With the Nokia aquisition it becomes perhaps 20% but that's still not very much.

The devices strategy hasn't benefited MS and the board knows this, investors know this and if the new CEO realizes this they will get rid of Xbox and smartphones alltogether and continue with the profitable WIndows/Office business.

Do you honestly see a future for MS hardware devices? I've never seen anyone own a Zune device or WIndows Phone device or Widnows Surface tablet and today I've never even seen anybody own a Xbox One, so I think the future of MS hardware looks dark.