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If it means I get a good Kinect game I'm all for it. But in all honesty I really don't see what Nintendo would really be gaining out of that. Halo I guess but I don't see what good that would do them. With the exception of MK they seem to hate online.



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damn, sony killer,
maybe all 3 can get together to take down samsung,apple,amazon and google a peg or 2

i'd defo buy a nintendo/microsoft/sony made tv,phone,PC & console



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I'd actually be down for either of these scenarios.

Nintendo buys Xbox brand and all first parties.

Nintendo and Sony merge.

The second scenario would be better as I really don't care for many of Microsoft's exclusives, so I'd still only purchase the console for third party or Nintendo exclusives.



Soundwave said:

MS agrees to "stake" Nintendo in the game business. Microsoft Game Studios (and Halo, Killer Instinct, Forza, etc.) lives on but will be on Nintendo consoles exclusively. Nintendo's online network becomes XBox Live. 

Nintendo agrees to use Windows mobile OS on their future handhelds and make a few games for Windows Phones exclusively to try and get kids hooked on the Windows/Metro interface rather than iOS/Android. 

Perhaps there is a deal there to be had if MS is getting tired of the game business.

Something similar already proposed.  Forwarded interally.  Can't comment further.



Adinnieken said:
Soundwave said:

MS agrees to "stake" Nintendo in the game business. Microsoft Game Studios (and Halo, Killer Instinct, Forza, etc.) lives on but will be on Nintendo consoles exclusively. Nintendo's online network becomes XBox Live. 

Nintendo agrees to use Windows mobile OS on their future handhelds and make a few games for Windows Phones exclusively to try and get kids hooked on the Windows/Metro interface rather than iOS/Android. 

Perhaps there is a deal there to be had if MS is getting tired of the game business.

Something similar already proposed.  Forwarded interally.  Can't comment further.

EDIT: Hmmm. 



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nuckles87 said:
superryo said:
So MS sold so much better than the original X360 and it's a failure? Where did the loss of billions a year come from? I thought they are selling the One at a profit? Seems like a lot of "journalists" are using the PIDOOMA (pulled it directly out of my ass) theory. As for not being the most powerful and not selling as much as the competitors mean you should close shop then Apple should close as well since doesn't Android (mostly Samsung) owns 80% of the market and in some cases have much more powerful devices? How come none of the "journalists" are calling Apple to close shop and selling to Google?



It's not "pulled out of his ass". The division that the Xbox is in has been a money loser for most of it's existence, and when the division did make profits those profits were typically slim slim. And apparently, those profits were not coming from the Xbox part of that division, but rather then Android part of it:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.833461-Microsoft-Loses-2-Billion-Per-Year-On-Xbox-Analyst-Says

Seriously dude, that link was in the OP. Looking at this, I don't really see WHY MS would continue investing in this business. They've lost billions of dollars on the Xbox and have yet to win a generation's market share. Xbox One looks to be losing a lot of the ground 360 gained, and within this console generation most of the One's TV and multimedia features will be found in your typical Smart TV. This thing will be obsolete for everything but gaming before this generation is out.

If MS wants to be the center of the living room, they'd be better off investing in Smart TV software, because I don't see how the One will gain them anything.

If you say why MS should invest in a money losing business then why didn't that apply to Sony for years with PS3?  They may have lost billions to set up but from what I understand they have been making money for the last couple of years.  No one ever say anything about Google spending billions on Android and giving it away in order to make more billions on advertising.  In the end whether MS makes money or not has nothing to do with 99.9999999999% of the gamers or the gaming journalists out there.  They should enjoy the games or don't... if this keeps up we won't have a 2 horse race cause the same people will tell Nintendo to close shop too since they are selling even worse than MS these days... and I am not talking about handhelds. 



I wish people would stop with this "failure" and "doomed" crap... The market will change, games will come and there will be a different story in 2 years.



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kowenicki said:

I use actual financial reports... weird of me I know.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/index.html

2006 huge loss $2.0bn

2007 huge loss $1.0bn

2008 huge loss $600m

2009 huge loss $900m

remember these are fiscal years so 2009 is ending in 2010

yes its made some profits recently, but nothing big, last  year for instance it was tiny.

Bolded: Why do you constantly feel the need to talk to others in such a condescending attitude? Is that really necessary for your argument? 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Fusioncode said:

kowenicki said:

I use actual financial reports... weird of me I know.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/index.html

2006 huge loss $2.0bn

2007 huge loss $1.0bn

2008 huge loss $600m

2009 huge loss $900m

remember these are fiscal years so 2009 is ending in 2010

yes its made some profits recently, but nothing big, last  year for instance it was tiny.

Bolded: Why do you constantly feel the need to talk to others in such a condescending attitude? Is that really necessary for your argument? 

Especially considering we were using the same information, just from different sources. But I wouldn't worry about it. It shows him in a negative light more so than anyone he talks down to.



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"The new sales leader is Sony, but that should give no one reason to cheer.  Sony lost money for 4 straight years (2008-2012), and was barely able to squeek out a 2013 profit  only because it took a massive $4.6B 2012 loss which cleared the way to show something slightly better than break-even.  Now S&P has downgraded Sony’s debt to near junk status.  While PS4 sales are better than XBox One, in the fast shifting world of gaming this is no lock on future sales as game developers constantly jockey dollars between platforms.

Whether Sony will make money on PS4 in 2014 is far from proven.  Especially since it sells for $100/unit (20%) less than XBox One – which compresses margins.  What investors (and customers) can expect is an ongoing price war between Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to attract sales.  A competition which historically has left all competitors with losses – even when they win the market share war."

 

Today I have learned a lot of things:

- Sony tooks massive losses on purpose.

- An American rating agency honestly downgrades a Japanese company's debt to junk status after that company to surprisingly strive in recent months.

- Sony Gaming Division presents profits in the last quarter but now that software will significantly sell upon the hardware sold in that quarter, Sony may not present profits anymore.

- PS4 will engage into a price war despite being selling more than its competitors combined and being enlarging that difference month after month.



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