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Should Nintendo offer a WiiU SKU without the Gamepad?

Yes, their best option at this point. 164 47.13%
 
No, the negatives outweigh the cheaper price. 183 52.59%
 
Total:347

The price wont be astronomically cheaper like some people think it is , you gotta take into account what goes into NIntendp's production and assorted costs with this console.



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

Except the tablet isnt the reason the system is sold at a loss.

CNN has it at $79. I've seen 100 thrown around a few. And with warranty Nintendo fixes it for $90 or replaces it for $140. I'm willing to bet they're losing a lot of money from the gamepad.



Figgycal said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

Except the tablet isnt the reason the system is sold at a loss.

CNN has it at $79. I've seen 100 thrown around a few. And with warranty Nintendo fixes it for $90 or replaces it for $140. I'm willing to bet they're losing a lot of money from the gamepad.

NIntendo wouldnt have included it in the system if that was the case...



oniyide said:
Mystro-Sama said:
What you people need to ask yourselves is, what is the Wii U without the gamepad? And the answer is nothing. It will lose all it's originally and become that consoles with previous gen specs.


it already has that stigma

 

Now think how much worse it will get if it was actually true.



Gamepad is a red herring, Software is overestimated, Nintendo needs to address 2 major problems with the Wii U: Lack of Developer Support (Which is just lack of developer interest) and lack of consumer interest.

While strong software (specifically 1st party) can attract consumers and larger base is more attractive to consumers, strong software can also be toxic to 3rd Parties i.e more competition less profits. If Nintendo is arguably the best software developer, what developer would be mad enough to challenge them on their own court.

Thus the need to address consumers with more than just software and since the new consoles are selling more at higher price, price isn't the issue with demand. What else do the PS4/XB1 have? More Hype/Media attention, better 3rd party relations, more extensive network support.

Hype/Media can be addressed with Marketing, 3rd party relations are damaged by Wii U design but can be made up with User Base increase, advertising, and Online Network expansion. The Network can be improved with Money, which Nintendo apparently is sitting on.



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Figgycal said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

Except the tablet isnt the reason the system is sold at a loss.

CNN has it at $79. I've seen 100 thrown around a few. And with warranty Nintendo fixes it for $90 or replaces it for $140. I'm willing to bet they're losing a lot of money from the gamepad.

NIntendo wouldnt have included it in the system if that was the case...

The system wouldn't be 300 and selling at a loss otherwise.



It was selling at a loss when it was 350$

They cut the price 50$ and had to change manufacturers due to natural disasters.

Meanwhile competition is using off the shelf parts with slight customization that's cheap as hell and is pretty much 400$



Figgycal said:

The idea is:

The system is being sold at a lost. The tablet is the main cause of this problem. The tablet is not selling the system. The system isn't selling well.

All those statements are true. If we remove the tablet:

The system is no longer being sold at a lost. The system is not selling well.

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There's  nothing left you can do for Wii U at this point aside from softening the damages a little. I never said to stop supporting it and move on to the next system ASAP. Rather they should ride out the system for a 5 or 6 year lifecycle and push hard at the causal market that WORKED for them with the Wii. The system won't sell on par with the Wii (its success was unique and can't be duplicated), but it would sell a hell of a lot better than the Wii U. At the worst it would sell as well as the gamecube.

edit: Feel free to replace the word "tablet" with "gamepad".

Great post.  This is pretty much exactly my viewpoint as well.  

If the Gamepad was flourishing with new ideas that required it or if it was moving the console, separating it would be the last thing you'd want to do.  But as it is right now there would be a substantial benefit to offering a SKU without it.  None of the big games coming up - not a single one - requires the GP in the way that, say, Nintendoland does.  Not DKC, not Mario Kart, not Smash and most likely not Zelda U either.  That doesn't mean it can't enhance those games; as I said before, playing Wind Waker with it is a dream, but the option would always be there for that.  

It seems as though Ninty is not making it a priority, and if that's the case then there's no reason not to give people an option.  This is why I don't understand the people that say, "Without the GP the WiiU isn't special and is just an underpowered console."  I disagree.  What makes it special and different from the competition is that it's the only place to play Nintendo's exclusive console games.  And I really don't think that most potential WiiU owners mind the system's power... so long as the price is appropriate.




Except that viewpoint happens to be wrong^



Agree to disagree.