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biglittlesps said:
curl-6 said:
Strong marketing, competition making so many mistakes, long overdue.


I would say its Sony trust and their support they shown in PS3 recently witht games are the inidcation that sony will give great games and also its the powerful console.

Their recent games like B3yond, GoW Ascension, Puppeteer, GT6, etc, didn't get all that much love.



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curl-6 said:
biglittlesps said:
curl-6 said:
Strong marketing, competition making so many mistakes, long overdue.


I would say its Sony trust and their support they shown in PS3 recently witht games are the inidcation that sony will give great games and also its the powerful console.

Their recent games like B3yond, GoW Ascension, Puppeteer, GT6, etc, didn't get all that much love.

 

You didn't mention certain game, though :P



curl-6 said:

Their recent games like B3yond, GoW Ascension, Puppeteer, GT6, etc, didn't get all that much love.

If they wanted better sales, they would've released it crossgen or not so close to PS4 launch



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Dragon246 said:
ninetailschris said:
Superman4 said:
ninetailschris said:
leo-j said:
Because of what sony did with the ps3.. They deserve trust and sales.. To go from barely having better first party than microsoft , to surpassing Nintendo.. With innovative IP after IP.. They proved themselves last gen

I needed a good laugh. The reason is it's under stocked. The wii and ps2 was doing way more per week than ps4 now. The hype was much bigger because (DVD and casuals). People on here are acting like wii numbers are here. People are not talking about the ps4 like they are iPhones.


Understocked yet it jus outsold the xbone in the US of all places the past few weeks. This last week outsold it by double in the US and Xbone consoles are available week after week online at Amazon and in local retail locations. PS4 however sells out the minute they become available. Some locations may have some in stock, none that I have seen online though. PS4 is increasing its sales lead while Xbone sales are decreasing. This all before the Japan launch.


Doubling the xbone doesn't mean the ps4 is doing amazing numbers. The xbone is underperforming. 500 dollars is not at a mass market price. Ps4 is doing very similar to Xbox 360 sales beginning of gen. This telling me, less people are interested in console gaming. Selling out, quickly when your very under stock isn't amazing. Wii was definition of under stock because after coming out of the GameCube, no one would have thought it would even sale 100,000 week global. You could see this by it nosediving in sales. Going from 100,000 to 30,000 for months.Ps4 is ranging from 60,000-89,000 in USA. What this is telling me is that usually early adopters are picking up to the amount that is reasonable not wii levels. Basically Sony is producing the amount it would have sold anyway by a few thousands difference.

You can forget Japan. Winning Japan in the console market it has today is like winning an ugly contest. 

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Read my statement previous on why it has higher sales, because the situation are the reverse of the iPhone analogy for the wii . So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.



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This launch hype for the ps4 is almost completely down to just how utterly blown away people were at E3 by the Microsoft reveal of the Xboxone and it's drm

There wasn't a single person in their seat where I watched the Sony conference when Jack T dropped the mic, that was Megadrive/Snes flashbacks of console wars stuff for me.



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ninetailschris said:
Dragon246 said:

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Ps4 is 5.1 million the wii is 100 million. What are you even talking about. The wii u is also ahead of ps4, only because it's been out longer but nevertheless, your still wrong. So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.

He said the PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii, not that it had sold more. Tracking ahead means that by the same point in the Wii's life (excluding japan) it had sold less than the PS4.



Zekkyou said:
ninetailschris said:
Dragon246 said:

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Ps4 is 5.1 million the wii is 100 million. What are you even talking about. The wii u is also ahead of ps4, only because it's been out longer but nevertheless, your still wrong. So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.

He said the PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii, not that it had sold more. Tracking ahead means that by the same point in the Wii's life (excluding japan) it had sold less than the PS4.

Yea, I mis-read that part. I will edit it. He didn't respond yet, so it shouldn't be an issue.



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Dragon246 said:
ninetailschris said:
Superman4 said:
ninetailschris said:
leo-j said:
Because of what sony did with the ps3.. They deserve trust and sales.. To go from barely having better first party than microsoft , to surpassing Nintendo.. With innovative IP after IP.. They proved themselves last gen

I needed a good laugh. The reason is it's under stocked. The wii and ps2 was doing way more per week than ps4 now. The hype was much bigger because (DVD and casuals). People on here are acting like wii numbers are here. People are not talking about the ps4 like they are iPhones.


Understocked yet it jus outsold the xbone in the US of all places the past few weeks. This last week outsold it by double in the US and Xbone consoles are available week after week online at Amazon and in local retail locations. PS4 however sells out the minute they become available. Some locations may have some in stock, none that I have seen online though. PS4 is increasing its sales lead while Xbone sales are decreasing. This all before the Japan launch.


Doubling the xbone doesn't mean the ps4 is doing amazing numbers. The xbone is underperforming. 500 dollars is not at a mass market price. Ps4 is doing very similar to Xbox 360 sales beginning of gen. This telling me, less people are interested in console gaming. Selling out, quickly when your very under stock isn't amazing. Wii was definition of under stock because after coming out of the GameCube, no one would have thought it would even sale 100,000 week global. You could see this by it nosediving in sales. Going from 100,000 to 30,000 for months.Ps4 is ranging from 60,000-89,000 in USA. What this is telling me is that usually early adopters are picking up to the amount that is reasonable not wii levels. Basically Sony is producing the amount it would have sold anyway by a few thousands difference.

You can forget Japan. Winning Japan in the console market it has today is like winning an ugly contest. 

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

HAHAHAHAHAHA no.

The demand for the Wii was insane.

Im not fucking hiring you for any number crunching, this pony cant read can he?

 

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