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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 17 February 2014
ninetailschris said:
Zekkyou said:
ninetailschris said:
Dragon246 said:

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Ps4 is 5.1 million the wii is 100 million. What are you even talking about. The wii u is also ahead of ps4, only because it's been out longer but nevertheless, your still wrong. So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.

He said the PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii, not that it had sold more. Tracking ahead means that by the same point in the Wii's life (excluding japan) it had sold less than the PS4.

Yea, I mis-read that part. I will edit it. He didn't respond yet, so it shouldn't be an issue.


Wii and PS2 were both extremely supply constrained with super high demand. PS4 demand kinda dropped off a cliff in January.

and if you look at amazon, every last gen version of every PS4 game is selling more than PS4 and the top selling game is fucking Mario Kart 8



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Turkish on 17 February 2014
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
ninetailschris said:
Zekkyou said:
ninetailschris said:
Dragon246 said:

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Ps4 is 5.1 million the wii is 100 million. What are you even talking about. The wii u is also ahead of ps4, only because it's been out longer but nevertheless, your still wrong. So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.

He said the PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii, not that it had sold more. Tracking ahead means that by the same point in the Wii's life (excluding japan) it had sold less than the PS4.

Yea, I mis-read that part. I will edit it. He didn't respond yet, so it shouldn't be an issue.


Wii and PS2 were both extremely supply constrained with super high demand. PS4 demand kinda dropped off a cliff in January.

and if you look at amazon, every last gen version of every PS4 game is selling more than PS4 and the top selling game is fucking Mario Kart 8


The PS4 is extremely supply constrained as well, sold out everywhere and the few places you can find it are small towns or really random places. Sony cant produce enough to keep up with the demand, how can you claim demand dropped off a cliff?  Top selling game is MK8? Wtf? #293 on Amazon best seller list.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 17 February 2014
Turkish said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
ninetailschris said:
Zekkyou said:
ninetailschris said:
Dragon246 said:

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Ps4 is 5.1 million the wii is 100 million. What are you even talking about. The wii u is also ahead of ps4, only because it's been out longer but nevertheless, your still wrong. So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.

He said the PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii, not that it had sold more. Tracking ahead means that by the same point in the Wii's life (excluding japan) it had sold less than the PS4.

Yea, I mis-read that part. I will edit it. He didn't respond yet, so it shouldn't be an issue.


Wii and PS2 were both extremely supply constrained with super high demand. PS4 demand kinda dropped off a cliff in January.

and if you look at amazon, every last gen version of every PS4 game is selling more than PS4 and the top selling game is fucking Mario Kart 8


The PS4 is extremely supply constrained as well, sold out everywhere and the few places you can find it are small towns or really random places. Sony cant produce enough to keep up with the demand, how can you claim demand dropped off a cliff?  Top selling game is MK8? Wtf? #293 on Amazon best seller list.

No its not. Sony's about to launch their console in Japan and consoles dropped alot in January.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1#1

Oh Yakuza PS3 got up there huh?



Turkish on 17 February 2014
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Turkish said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
ninetailschris said:
Zekkyou said:
ninetailschris said:
Dragon246 said:

Yeah, right. Only thing is that X1 is outsellling 360 by a ratio of 2.29 (according to MS). And Sony is outselling X1 1.5-2:1.

PS4 is still tracking above Wii without Japan. Did you have a good laugh now?

Again you are not looking at context of release and why it would be considered underperforming.

xbox 360 came off the Xbox a console that sold 23-4 million. What would be considered underperforming in 2005 isn't the same as today.

To give analogy, if Apple CEO at stock market had a briefing on the release of iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 is underperforming based on iPhone 5 sales but he makes the excuse "well it sold out sold the first iPhone sales." Do you think that people at the stock market think that is actual good defense? No, because iPhone 1 was not nearly as popular as iPhone 6 at that stage of the iPhone life. What this is telling the stock market is that pre-existing hardcore owners are adopting but it's failing to grab the fullest of the previous platform. Something needs to be corrected or the previous market is moving on to other things.

Ps4 is 5.1 million the wii is 100 million. What are you even talking about. The wii u is also ahead of ps4, only because it's been out longer but nevertheless, your still wrong. So, I guess I can still laugh? By the way, I was laughing because he said Sony makes the most innovated games and all other Sony is g-d talk.

He said the PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii, not that it had sold more. Tracking ahead means that by the same point in the Wii's life (excluding japan) it had sold less than the PS4.

Yea, I mis-read that part. I will edit it. He didn't respond yet, so it shouldn't be an issue.


Wii and PS2 were both extremely supply constrained with super high demand. PS4 demand kinda dropped off a cliff in January.

and if you look at amazon, every last gen version of every PS4 game is selling more than PS4 and the top selling game is fucking Mario Kart 8


The PS4 is extremely supply constrained as well, sold out everywhere and the few places you can find it are small towns or really random places. Sony cant produce enough to keep up with the demand, how can you claim demand dropped off a cliff?  Top selling game is MK8? Wtf? #293 on Amazon best seller list.

No its not. Sony's about to launch their console in Japan and consoles dropped alot in January.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1#1

Oh Yakuza PS3 got up there huh?


So you were talking about Japan, the only market PS4 hasnt released in. I was talking about the markets it launched already and PS4 demand is still higher than supply there.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 17 February 2014

Wii was in high demand for 12 months straight.



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Callum_Alexander on 17 February 2014
riecsou said:
leo-j said:
Because of what sony did with the ps3.. They deserve trust and sales.. To go from barely having better first party than microsoft , to surpassing Nintendo.. With innovative IP after IP.. They proved themselves last gen

The reason I went PS4 is actually trust, I just know the games are coming. I know deep inside each company are looking to make money and take my money, but for some reason I trust Sony. Can't explain why.

I think the people at Sony are looked at more as gamers than business men, whereas the opposite is true for Microsoft. Shuhei Yoshida oppenly admits to owning two Wii U consoles, and the teams all seem to get genuinely excited about new games.

Personally, I knew I was going to switch to PlayStation this generation a long while ago. I saw the way Microsoft were taking the Xbox brand, and that combined with a complete lack of support, charging for Xbox Live and putting services behind the paywall whilst also showering me with ads, it was enough that I sold my Xbox 360 back in January of last year and waited for Sony's reveal event. To cut a long story short, Sony had me at 59 seconds into their presentation:

"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY

And to me that is what Sony has become, imagination personified.



lukeroux on 17 February 2014
Cthulhu said:
I have yet to see a PS4 in a shop. Only empty boxes for display


same



WebmasterX on 17 February 2014

Hype post



Wonktonodi on 17 February 2014

 

Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:


Wii and PS2 were both extremely supply constrained with super high demand. PS4 demand kinda dropped off a cliff in January.

and if you look at amazon, every last gen version of every PS4 game is selling more than PS4 and the top selling game is fucking Mario Kart 8


a few things the ps4 is still supplly constrained.

define dropped off a cliff? have you looked at the wii's sales in 2007? have you looked how many were in Japan? have a look at a comparison of the sales. 

Did you look at NPD ps4 was the best selling version of quite a few of the top ten software

 

Jan 7 2007 Japan

Wii 171,626 (+59%)

WW Jan 6th

Wii 304,147 (+7%) 3,258,928

without Japan thats  132,521

January 4th 2014

PS4 260,911 (-44%) 4,397,385

PS4 almost double though it does have a few more days in December

Japan Jan14 07

Wii 95,723 (-44%) 1,225,548

WW Jan 13

Wii 251,498 (-17%) 3,510,426

without Japan 155,775

January 11th 2014

PS4 181,422 (-30%) 4,578,807

Ps4 still up though only about 25,000

 

Japan Jan 21st 07

Wii 83,788 (-12%) 1,309,336

WW Jan 20th

Wii 245,435 (-2%) 3,755,861

without Japan  161,647

Jan 18th 2014

PS4 154,904 (-15%) 4,733,711

PS4 down by less than 7,000

 

Japan Jan 28th 07

Wii 82,898 (-1%) 1,392,234

WW Jan 27th

Wii 251,288 (+2%) 4,007,149

without Japan  168,330

Jan 25th 2014

PS4 147,615 (-5%) 4,881,326

PS4 Down by a little over 20,000

Japan Feb 4th 07

Wii 70,738 (-15%) 1,462,972

WW Feb 3rd

Wii 231,018 (-8%) 4,238,167

without Japan 160,280

 Feb 1st 2014

PS4 165,543 (+12%) 5,046,869

PS4 Up again by about 5,000

 

Japan Feb 11th 07

Wii 74,059 (+5%) 1,537,031

WW Feb 10th

Wii 220,974 (-4%) 4,459,141

without Japan 146,915  WW to date without Japan  2,922,110  WW YTD without Japan about 925,000

Feb 8th 2014

Ps4  140,308

down by about 7,000  WW to date without Japan about 5,1800,000  WW YTD without Japan about 1,050,000

So without Japan the ps4 is about 125,000 above what the wii did. Even if you take out most of the sales for the first weeks numbers, You can hardly call that dropping off a cliff. Not only that even without the million and a half sales the wii had in Japan by this point, the ps4 is still up by over 600,000



leo-j on 17 February 2014
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
leo-j said:
Because of what sony did with the ps3.. They deserve trust and sales.. To go from barely having better first party than microsoft , to surpassing Nintendo.. With innovative IP after IP.. They proved themselves last gen


Surpassing Nintendo? Are you drunk? 

Uncharted/littlebigplanet/infamous/killzone/ratchet/jak/godofwar/granturismo/journey/pixeljunkip/heavy rain/ beyond two souls/ the last of us/ puppettier/ all say hi... And all show the variety that Nintendo cannot even touch



 

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