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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD Jan 2014 VS NPD Jan 2007 -- Nex-Gen Is Underperforming!

Even Xbox One is doing better than its predecessor. 8th gen is tracking good, only Nintendo is failing. Handhelds are another story though.



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leo-j said:
or maybe everybody wants a ps4.. and sony can't make them as fast as nintendo made the wii, since nintendo were basically using slightly upgraded 6th gen parts for their console..

while sony is using new gen tech to manufacture the ps4..


blah blah blah

 



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

leo-j said:
or maybe everybody wants a ps4.. and sony can't make them as fast as nintendo made the wii, since nintendo were basically using slightly upgraded 6th gen parts for their console..

while sony is using new gen tech to manufacture the ps4..

Except that the Wii was supply constrained as well...

@Darth; are you going to update the Wii U number?



You forgot to report the part where nearly half of all console games sales were on the Xbox(360 and One.) So Wii, WiiU, PS2, PS3, PS4 all splitting the rest.

Anyone know if NPD tracks digital sales yet? Or when it will?



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Shadow1980 said:
JWeinCom said:
The industry is different. It has become much more efficient at building hype, and more prominent retailers are doing preorders than they were in the past. Accordingly, the PS4 and XBone were going to have stronger initial sales, but quicker drops. Pretty much to be expected for Sony and MS, although the Wii U is another matter entirely.


Are you thinking what I'm thinking? That due to the rise of the "preorder culture" and pent-up demand amongst the hardest core gamers after the "Longest Generation" that sales in the early months are concentrated in the debut holiday instead of being more evenly spread out like before?

Let's focus on the U.S. for now since we just got NPD numbers for the PS4 and XBO. The 360 and PS3 sold 600k and nearly 700k respectively during their launches. The 360 sold another 603k in Q1 '06 and the PS3 another 501k in Q1' 07, giving their debut quarters and the following quarters comparable sales. Meanwhile, the PS4 sold about 2000k and the XBO about 1800k last year, making their U.S. launches triple the size of their predecessors'; the PS4 also sold 85% more units than the PS2 did it's debut holiday (just shy of 1.1 million). Because of mass preordering causing hundreds of thousands of customers who might have bought the system at a later date buying the system ASAP, a large number of sales that might have otherwise happened in 2014 were sold in 2014, thus the proportionally sharp drops compared to older systems. The sales then eventually rebound, leaving a noticeable early 2014 trough in the sales curve.

Something like that?

If that is indeed the case, then claims of "doom" are doubly pointless. They're already pointless now, what with this being not just a single month, but only the third month the PS4 and XBO have even been on the market. If it turns out that sales in the early months of the gen are shifted towards just the first few weeks, then XBOs having plenty of stock and a tepid Jan. NPD (the 360 itself only sold 161k in Feb. '06) may not be anything to worry about. It also means that, since even with limited stock and reduced demand, the PS4 sold about on par with what the PS2 did in Jan. '01 and, when normalized for weekly averages, ahead of the 360 and well ahead of the PS3, the PS4 may go on to sell far stronger than what that 280k figure for last month suggested.

Very good analysis

I think I agree.

Pent up demand has led to record breaking launches...but momentum may slow down now!



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PS4 is not underperforming, second best 1st january in the history, and it's just not in stock (low stock than wii obviously)and not in japan yet, it's doing on par with wii without japan



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m