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kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
what does this tell us?

thats a VERY interesting stat imo.

That playstation has more hardcore fans than any other manufactor?


yep... the kind that will adopt asap...

Well, hopefully that translates into lasting sales. Vita really is an amazing system, it just has some really heavy competition and a lack of software support. PSP did well with the casual audience before phones really took off. Now, with the mobile competition, vita is really feeling the pressure. I bet psp to vita lost over 50% of their female audience, which was about 50% of psp sales iirc.

So it's kinda hard to say whether people who are buying ps4 are buying because they're sony fans, or are just gamers in general.

I mean, I would agree that it looks like sony fans buy early, but remember that vita sales dropped off pretty quickly, but we're now in the end of 3 months on sale and it's still doing nearly 15% of peak. Its sales right now per week is within 1% difference of every home system combined.

So, maybe it's actually that all the sales over the past for vita has been playstation fans slowly adopting over time because they were unsure about the system until price drops etc, but they bought ps4 immediately since it's clearly an awesome system. Remember that vita has been out for a couple years now...it's not like 60% of those sales were within the first 3 months.



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theprof00 said:
kupomogli said:

Sounds a bit like bs to me.  Just like the digital sales news.

Why does it sound like bs?

No proof on it, just what I think.  They throw out there that only 250,000 tried remote play but 3,060,000 have the PS4 + Vita.  You really think there are that few people who are going to atleast attempt using remote play?

Also over two million Vitas were sold in Japan, so that means that there two million Vita owners outside of Japan who don't own a PS3 in comparison to three million who do.  I just don't buy it.

Also, if 48% of the Vita sales were digital, don't you think Sony would be trying their hardest to get more content to the Vita?  I think that 48% is them adding all the digital sales for games playable on Vita prior to the Vita even releasing.  So everything PSP, all the future cross buy titles later added to the Vita, etc.  Who knows if they don't also add the free PS+ titles into Vita sales.   

Just seems like they're padding numbers.



I guess Vita owners (like me) are, for the most part die hard Sony fans (not like me) and early adopters.  I think that the number is going to drop drastically as time progresses but for now, it's a pretty impressive figure.  I'll be joining that number soon, though.  The PS4 is going to be vital gaming equipment this gen.



kupomogli said:
theprof00 said:
kupomogli said:

Sounds a bit like bs to me.  Just like the digital sales news.

Why does it sound like bs?

No proof on it, just what I think.  They throw out there that only 250,000 tried remote play but 3,060,000 have the PS4 + Vita.  You really think there are that few people who are going to atleast attempt using remote play?

Also over two million Vitas were sold in Japan, so that means that there two million Vita owners outside of Japan who don't own a PS3 in comparison to three million who do.  I just don't buy it.

Also, if 48% of the Vita sales were digital, don't you think Sony would be trying their hardest to get more content to the Vita?  Even indie titles are slow to appear on the system.  I think that 48% is them adding all the digital sales for games playable on Vita prior to the Vita even releasing.  So everything PSP, all the future cross buy titles later added to the Vita, etc.  Who knows if they don't also add the free PS+ titles into Vita sales.   

Just seems like they're padding numbers.

For what? To convince investors they're doing fine with a console that accounts for like less than 1% of their total revenue. You must be joking.

Just look at the numbers and think about what they mean. No need to be so astounded by them.

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth"

'3m have ps4 and vita, yet only 250k have tried remote play....'
And yet only half have bought ps+ for MP. Maybe the reality is just that a lot of people don't care?

Sure, it's possible that their numbers are flawed, but it should at least be worth looking into what they mean first.



I am the 40%



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Off topic, but I wonder how many WiiU owners also have 3DS?



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

You mean early adopters of PS4 are also likely to have purchased other Playstation devices?  Stop the presses.



They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."

kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
what does this tell us?

thats a VERY interesting stat imo.

That playstation has more hardcore fans than any other manufactor?


yep... the kind that will adopt asap...

So fast that they've bought 7.5m Vitas in 2 years.

Not sure how the fact that the VITA couldn't drive early adoption detracts from what I said in anyway. Your stat just illustrates what a massive failure Vita is even amongst Sony fans.

However, CLEARLY the people that have bought a PSVita will in the main be big sony fans...

It now appears that these big Sony fans have jumped on the PS4 in a big way, very early.

That is simply undeniable if this stat is true. 

 People dont buy Vita ( and PS4 )because they are big sony fans.
They buy PS4 because Vita make them Sony fan with wonderful PS+



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

fleischr said:
Off topic, but I wonder how many WiiU owners also have 3DS?


About 200%



I own both.



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