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jlmurph2 on 11 February 2014

X1 will need an 9 year console generation and a $350 console with Kinect 3.0 and Illumiroom in 2017 to sell anywhere near 100m. PS4 would need to be $179.99 in 2017 and have a 9 year console generation. Neither will happen because this gen will last 5 or 6 years at the most.



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FlamingWeazel on 11 February 2014
DJEVOLVE said:
BeElite said:
 

lol two palets.  Just check online its soldout most places, they are still no where near meeting demand and keeping shelves stocked, and that with out any games.

You are right hype will fade, but that where games come in.  They rekindle that hype.  Why has sony been taking their sweet ass time with exclusives, casue they can.  Ps4 is selling to damn well to rush any game.  And when they finaly drop they will be shined polished to perfection, no rush jobs no good games that could have been great.

This is the console of this gen, the consumer #1 choice. 


See thats the problem, you think it's in the bag already. We are 3 months in. Not years bro. My god. You can't tell the future as much as I can't but as MS walked out of the DRM ok, they will make adjustments along the way.  They can drop to 399 with Kinect by fall of next year with no issue. Sony cannot, they need profits now.  They are losing everywhere accept PS4, they will keep the price as high as they can for as long as they can.

This is all opion and no one can tell the future, not even you homeslice.

At 399 they are still the same price, ps4 would still be outselling x1 weekly. Again I repeat, how will x1 outsaell weekly wiothout europe or japan?

 

MS wont drop the price and lose money just for the sake of it...

 

I heard all last gen : Sony cannot afford it MS has money" how did that work out? PS4 will also drop in price like every gen.



think-man on 11 February 2014

X1 isn't going to outsell the 360 so can't see this happening.



 

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DJEVOLVE on 11 February 2014
BeElite said:
DJEVOLVE said:
BeElite said:
 

lol two palets.  Just check online its soldout most places, they are still no where near meeting demand and keeping shelves stocked, and that with out any games.

You are right hype will fade, but that where games come in.  They rekindle that hype.  Why has sony been taking their sweet ass time with exclusives, casue they can.  Ps4 is selling to damn well to rush any game.  And when they finaly drop they will be shined polished to perfection, no rush jobs no good games that could have been great.

This is the console of this gen, the consumer #1 choice. 


See thats the problem, you think it's in the bag already. We are 3 months in. Not years bro. My god. You can't tell the future as much as I can't but as MS walked out of the DRM ok, they will make adjustments along the way.  They can drop to 399 with Kinect by fall of next year with no issue. Sony cannot, they need profits now.  They are losing everywhere accept PS4, they will keep the price as high as they can for as long as they can.

This is all opion and no one can tell the future, not even you homeslice.

MS handed the victory bag to sony with their fuck ups, so unless PS4 has a PROD moment in the future that MS can capatilize on its pretty much settled.  One is the record setting media gamer darling the other well...  drm e3 mega pr disaster and all the other fuck ups stink is still freash.

Buddy Ms aint cutting x1 with kinetic to 399, shareholders are already are calling for xbox to be killed.  Letting it slip into the red and selling at a big loss would only strengthen their cries.  Xbox means little to MS over all, many shareholders do not view beating PS as a need that deserves resources to be wasted on.

MS is getting out sold in its home market thats a fact not opinion, MS lost massiv market share is another fact.  That should tell you plenty nuff.


so 3 months in it's settled. LOLOLOLL you have something to learn about business. LOL

The rest is a joke, You basing you arguement off a bunch of useless anecdotal evidence. "So this happened, then this should happen and then this and this and this and this and this. I got a globe at home that tells me the future. "

This conversation has got stale and counterproductive.

I can say that sony is done because they are selling off everything, PS4 is next, it has to be the case, cause I said so. Give me a break. Are we really going to use all this as fact to what sales are going to be and the future? No we shouldn't. Your argument  Has no validity and is that of a pipe dream. MS will not sell Xbox one and it will continue to sell. Shareholders always complain. You just don't have experience with the market. They whine about everything. If someone farts the market shifts on what it thinks. Are you really that cynical?



sidmeiernintifan on 11 February 2014

The way I see it the fact that last gen Sony + Microsoft sold 160 million units, and the previous Gen Sony Alone sold 157 million units, tells me that the (hardcore) market has now grown that much. The 157 millions of Sany just got split by half.
These gen less consoles will be sold, mainly because the casuals are still satisfied with their own Wii in the same way that a normal family is still satisfied with their 10 years old Monopoly game.
I think only Sony can sell more than 100 million units, and it may be one of the last console generations before the netflix for videogames is invented.
Nintendo should be happy if they do N64 numbers, and Microsoft should be happy if they outsell Super Nintendo.



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DJEVOLVE on 11 February 2014
FlamingWeazel said:

At 399 they are still the same price, ps4 would still be outselling x1 weekly. Again I repeat, how will x1 outsaell weekly wiothout europe or japan?

 

MS wont drop the price and lose money just for the sake of it...

 

I heard all last gen : Sony cannot afford it MS has money" how did that work out? PS4 will also drop in price like every gen.


I will tell you how it worked, MS stole half of Sony's Market, half of there exclusive games and made massive profits over them. Seems like it worked well.



FlamingWeazel on 11 February 2014
DJEVOLVE said:
BeElite said:
DJEVOLVE said:
BeElite said:
 

lol two palets.  Just check online its soldout most places, they are still no where near meeting demand and keeping shelves stocked, and that with out any games.

You are right hype will fade, but that where games come in.  They rekindle that hype.  Why has sony been taking their sweet ass time with exclusives, casue they can.  Ps4 is selling to damn well to rush any game.  And when they finaly drop they will be shined polished to perfection, no rush jobs no good games that could have been great.

This is the console of this gen, the consumer #1 choice. 


See thats the problem, you think it's in the bag already. We are 3 months in. Not years bro. My god. You can't tell the future as much as I can't but as MS walked out of the DRM ok, they will make adjustments along the way.  They can drop to 399 with Kinect by fall of next year with no issue. Sony cannot, they need profits now.  They are losing everywhere accept PS4, they will keep the price as high as they can for as long as they can.

This is all opion and no one can tell the future, not even you homeslice.

MS handed the victory bag to sony with their fuck ups, so unless PS4 has a PROD moment in the future that MS can capatilize on its pretty much settled.  One is the record setting media gamer darling the other well...  drm e3 mega pr disaster and all the other fuck ups stink is still freash.

Buddy Ms aint cutting x1 with kinetic to 399, shareholders are already are calling for xbox to be killed.  Letting it slip into the red and selling at a big loss would only strengthen their cries.  Xbox means little to MS over all, many shareholders do not view beating PS as a need that deserves resources to be wasted on.

MS is getting out sold in its home market thats a fact not opinion, MS lost massiv market share is another fact.  That should tell you plenty nuff.


so 3 months in it's settled. LOLOLOLL you have something to learn about business. LOL

The rest is a joke, You basing you arguement off a bunch of useless anecdotal evidence. "So this happened, then this should happen and then this and this and this and this and this. I got a globe at home that tells me the future. "

This conversation has got stale and counterproductive.

I can say that sony is done because they are selling off everything, PS4 is next, it has to be the case, cause I said so. Give me a break. Are we really going to use all this as fact to what sales are going to be and the future? No we shouldn't. Your argument  Has no validity and is that of a pipe dream. MS will not sell Xbox one and it will continue to sell. Shareholders always complain. You just don't have experience with the market. They whine about everything. If someone farts the market shifts on what it thinks. Are you really that cynical?


You keep saying this, yet fail to explain how x1 will outsell ps4 without europe and japan? The main reason 360 got the market it did was PS3 being so late, expensive, and a disaster at launch. Ms doesnt have World wide appeal like playstation has.



FlamingWeazel on 11 February 2014
DJEVOLVE said:
FlamingWeazel said:
 

At 399 they are still the same price, ps4 would still be outselling x1 weekly. Again I repeat, how will x1 outsaell weekly wiothout europe or japan?

 

MS wont drop the price and lose money just for the sake of it...

 

I heard all last gen : Sony cannot afford it MS has money" how did that work out? PS4 will also drop in price like every gen.


I will tell you how it worked, MS stole half of Sony's Market, half of there exclusive games and made massive profits over them. Seems like it worked well.

Keep living in the past, who is taking what this gen? MS 2 lone territories they had are now gone. How will MS outsell Ps4 weekly without Europe and japan?



BeElite on 11 February 2014
DJEVOLVE said:
BeElite said:
 

And Uncharted 4 is coming, and all other Sony exclusives and 3rd party games that run and look better on PS4.

lol MS money, yahh yet its biggest shareholders want to kill the fraking xbox thats how happy they are dumping money at it.  So get over some delusion of MS money means greatness and success for Xbox, shareholders will not tolarate such sentiments. 

PS4 does not need to save it, they already decied to kill half their product lines and focus primerly on PS and a few others.  They basiclaly have to succed or die, this is some good motivation Sony has over its comp.  Sony only though is kill the comp make PS4 massive success.  While at MS some are thingking how to kill the Xbox.  Intresting is it not.


many shareholders want to keep xbox too. Only the negative gets out in the news. To base your argument off of this is great. They wanted to kill it with the original xbox, did it happen? No

Point being you have no clue whats coming. Nor do I.

It's all simply opinion and random guesses.

This site never acknowledged Xbox presence and years back people laughed, when other said Xbox will break 50 million. This site has made horrible predictions over and over, always in favor of Sony.  Yet it hasn't played out that way in the slightest. To say Xbox won't get competitive or drop kinect if it needs to, is funny. THey can drop kinect and undercut PS4 in a blink of a eye. This would entice many to jump ship. However this is last ditch effort and I wouldn't count them out even if they decide to keep Kinect. Once the games start focusing on Kinect, people will opt to buy. Yes they need a price cut but that will come in time.

Alright I got bored of this conversation, it means nothing really accept opinion and predictions. I will say in the history of this site. Odds are against you and most here.

Ahh come on cut the victim crap. Since day one this has been a nintendo dominated site, not Sony.

And then it was the whole wii60 where both MS and ninty fans teemd up agianst PS3 as they were all but hurt over what PS2 did to their consoles and this was always a sony negative place.  Only recently did PS3 comeback WiiU failure and PS4 dommination some what change that.  But even still more on here in a poll said they would buy watchDogs on Wiiu the PS4, should tell you plenty.

Either they keep kinteic keep the price and focus on motion games or they drop it and cut price.  Choose one for your argument?  Even if they drop kinetic and cut price under PS4, they still have weaker hardware (fact) running inferior 3rd party games (fact) and have smaller first party (fact)

Look at what each Sony console sold lowest seller is +80milliuon, odds are in PS4 favor reality is in its favor, facts are in its favor.

 



DJEVOLVE on 11 February 2014
FlamingWeazel said:


You keep saying this, yet fail to explain how x1 will outsell ps4 without europe and japan? The main reason 360 got the market it did was PS3 being so late, expensive, and a disaster at launch. Ms doesnt have World wide appeal like playstation has.


So ps3 by your view should have failed and tanked?3ds would have tanked. Your argument is void of the facts. Ms has many strong point and has many was to come back swinging. Never said they will outsell ps4 but they will keep close, thats for sure.

Tell me how they turned it around and i will tell you how MS will. You have no clue and are basing all reason of 3 month in which Xbox did not Tank, it did will for it's price. Launch for them was great. They sold millions of consoles. All it will take is time for them to regroup.