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ethomaz on 11 February 2014

Looking ar the sales... not before H2 2015 I guess,



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kurasakiichimaru on 11 February 2014

If PS4 keeps on snatching Xbox fans as time progresses, it won't happen in this year or even next year. Nintendo has its own dedicated fanbase.



zorg1000 on 11 February 2014
lt_dan_27 said:
DevilRising said:
lt_dan_27 said:
I think the ps4 will outsell the wiiu by the end of march at the latest, and the xbox one will be around november.


You may well be right about the PS4, but with MK releasing in May, some of these other annoucned titles like Yoshi, Bayonetta and possibly X releasing in the summer, Smash Bros. likely in Sep/Oct., and the still existent possibility of Zelda U by perhaps Dec., I very very seriously doubt Xbone will pass Wii U in 2014 at all.

 

@dsp333

"This will be by far Wii U's best year, so while it might be tough this year, in the long run the One will absolutely crush the Wii U."

 

I disagree, the only game on there that will have that much appeal at this point will be smash bros and the POSSIBILITY of zelda. Which I've heard absolutely nothing about, so I doubt it's coming out this year. New games up sales for maybe a week or two usually. I don't see the other games uping sales that much, especially bayonetta. 

most people buy a console based on its full library, not 1-2 select titles



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Mummelmann on 11 February 2014

Late 2014 probably. I believe both will get a price cut in Q4 this year.

Multiplats are a lot bigger deal on the One, it has a couple of exclusives coming as well and Live is a big deal since the 7th gen.
Smash and Mario Kart will be big, Yoshi, X, Hyrule and Bayo 2 won't do much at all though, I don't understand why people keep listing these games. Especially Bayo 2; this won't even be a blip on the radar on sales lists, it wasn't even very big on PS3 and 360, the only ripples it will cause are the wrinkles on the forehead of those who expect it to have any kind of impact on the overall hardware sales situation. X and Hyrule are fairly safe best for Japan, but Japan is a tiny region for home consoles now and then one big territory that matters the least for the global total today. Yoshi? What the hell? Even the biggest one on the DS managed 2.7 million and this franchise has been more or less irrelevant since the N64's days, this won't put a dent in anyone's armor, only add more wrinkles to the forehead.

Call of Duty, Assassin' Creed, Titanfall, Halo, Destiny, Final Fantasy, FIFA, NBA, Madden, Watchdogs, these are games that will certainly help the One in 2014, while we know that multiplats help the Wii U only marginally (Assassins' Creed 4 sold terribly on Wii U, same with Call of Duty), these are fairly big, or even giant games on the One. Mario Kart and Smash will be huge, no doubt, but they can't bear the brunt of the work alone and be expected to keep the Wii U ahead for long.

To those saying "never"; come on. It's inevitable, the only question is the time frame. October or November 2014 is my guess. Depends a little on release schedules, timing of price cuts, marketing and whether or not MS wisen up and make the Kinect optional.



generic-user-1 on 11 February 2014
Mummelmann said:
Late 2014 probably. I believe both will get a price cut in Q4 this year.

Multiplats are a lot bigger deal on the One, it has a couple of exclusives coming as well and Live is a big deal since the 7th gen.
Smash and Mario Kart will be big, Yoshi, X, Hyrule and Bayo 2 won't do much at all though, I don't understand why people keep listing these games. Especially Bayo 2; this won't even be a blip on the radar on sales lists, it wasn't even very big on PS3 and 360, the only ripples it will cause are the wrinkles on the forehead of those who expect it to have any kind of impact on the overall hardware sales situation. X and Hyrule are fairly safe best for Japan, but Japan is a tiny region for home consoles now and then one big territory that matters the least for the global total today. Yoshi? What the hell? Even the biggest one on the DS managed 2.7 million and this franchise has been more or less irrelevant since the N64's days, this won't put a dent in anyone's armor, only add more wrinkles to the forehead.

Call of Duty, Assassin' Creed, Titanfall, Halo, Destiny, Final Fantasy, FIFA, NBA, Madden, Watchdogs, these are games that will certainly help the One in 2014, while we know that multiplats help the Wii U only marginally (Assassins' Creed 4 sold terribly on Wii U, same with Call of Duty), these are fairly big, or even giant games on the One. Mario Kart and Smash will be huge, no doubt, but they can't bear the brunt of the work alone and be expected to keep the Wii U ahead for long.

To those saying "never"; come on. It's inevitable, the only question is the time frame. October or November 2014 is my guess. Depends a little on release schedules, timing of price cuts, marketing and whether or not MS wisen up and make the Kinect optional.

why should anyone buy a xbone for multiplatts? ps4 has more power and is cheaper.  and it will get worse when the nextgen realy hits. if we dont have ps360 xbone and ps4 to compare but just ps4 and xbone it will get realy ugly for ms.



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Mummelmann on 11 February 2014
generic-user-1 said:
Mummelmann said:
Late 2014 probably. I believe both will get a price cut in Q4 this year.

Multiplats are a lot bigger deal on the One, it has a couple of exclusives coming as well and Live is a big deal since the 7th gen.
Smash and Mario Kart will be big, Yoshi, X, Hyrule and Bayo 2 won't do much at all though, I don't understand why people keep listing these games. Especially Bayo 2; this won't even be a blip on the radar on sales lists, it wasn't even very big on PS3 and 360, the only ripples it will cause are the wrinkles on the forehead of those who expect it to have any kind of impact on the overall hardware sales situation. X and Hyrule are fairly safe best for Japan, but Japan is a tiny region for home consoles now and then one big territory that matters the least for the global total today. Yoshi? What the hell? Even the biggest one on the DS managed 2.7 million and this franchise has been more or less irrelevant since the N64's days, this won't put a dent in anyone's armor, only add more wrinkles to the forehead.

Call of Duty, Assassin' Creed, Titanfall, Halo, Destiny, Final Fantasy, FIFA, NBA, Madden, Watchdogs, these are games that will certainly help the One in 2014, while we know that multiplats help the Wii U only marginally (Assassins' Creed 4 sold terribly on Wii U, same with Call of Duty), these are fairly big, or even giant games on the One. Mario Kart and Smash will be huge, no doubt, but they can't bear the brunt of the work alone and be expected to keep the Wii U ahead for long.

To those saying "never"; come on. It's inevitable, the only question is the time frame. October or November 2014 is my guess. Depends a little on release schedules, timing of price cuts, marketing and whether or not MS wisen up and make the Kinect optional.

why should anyone buy a xbone for multiplatts? ps4 has more power and is cheaper.  and it will get worse when the nextgen realy hits. if we dont have ps360 xbone and ps4 to compare but just ps4 and xbone it will get realy ugly for ms.


Why did 8.2 million more Japanese buy a PS3 than a 360? The PS3's price was so high. Why did 16 million more US citizens buy 360's than PS3's? Why do people play multiplats on consoles at all and not PC; superior versions with free online and modding community? Why aren't we all PC gamers?

Why do you assume the One will remain 100$ more expensive? Why does the advantage in power matter so much? It still took the PS3 7 years to catch the 360 and they were both beaten the weaker Wii. Multiplats have a larger impact on One than on the Wii U, I hope you're not trying to contest that. I'm not implying that multiplats will skyrocket the One into orbit; I'm merely suggesting that it will provide a lot more aid for the One than the Wii U, which is undisputable regardless. There are also franchises like Halo and Gears that have yet to make their presence known; games like those will also help push the One above the Wii U. If the One can't manage to at least double the Wii U's lifetime sales; I'll be very, very surprised.

MS won't simply sit idly by and watch their console being destroyed in weekly sales. There is just no way that the One won't catch the Wii U and stay in front. The Wii U has shown beyond a doubt that it has a severe lack of appeal, whereas the One is brand new and has yet to employ any strategies or even receive any proper system selling software to give us an image of what it can do. People called doom on the Wii U in January/February 2013 and were told to hold off and give it a chance, yet now these people are calling doom on the One after a couple of months on the market.



generic-user-1 on 11 February 2014
Mummelmann said:
generic-user-1 said:
Mummelmann said:
Late 2014 probably. I believe both will get a price cut in Q4 this year.

Multiplats are a lot bigger deal on the One, it has a couple of exclusives coming as well and Live is a big deal since the 7th gen.
Smash and Mario Kart will be big, Yoshi, X, Hyrule and Bayo 2 won't do much at all though, I don't understand why people keep listing these games. Especially Bayo 2; this won't even be a blip on the radar on sales lists, it wasn't even very big on PS3 and 360, the only ripples it will cause are the wrinkles on the forehead of those who expect it to have any kind of impact on the overall hardware sales situation. X and Hyrule are fairly safe best for Japan, but Japan is a tiny region for home consoles now and then one big territory that matters the least for the global total today. Yoshi? What the hell? Even the biggest one on the DS managed 2.7 million and this franchise has been more or less irrelevant since the N64's days, this won't put a dent in anyone's armor, only add more wrinkles to the forehead.

Call of Duty, Assassin' Creed, Titanfall, Halo, Destiny, Final Fantasy, FIFA, NBA, Madden, Watchdogs, these are games that will certainly help the One in 2014, while we know that multiplats help the Wii U only marginally (Assassins' Creed 4 sold terribly on Wii U, same with Call of Duty), these are fairly big, or even giant games on the One. Mario Kart and Smash will be huge, no doubt, but they can't bear the brunt of the work alone and be expected to keep the Wii U ahead for long.

To those saying "never"; come on. It's inevitable, the only question is the time frame. October or November 2014 is my guess. Depends a little on release schedules, timing of price cuts, marketing and whether or not MS wisen up and make the Kinect optional.

why should anyone buy a xbone for multiplatts? ps4 has more power and is cheaper.  and it will get worse when the nextgen realy hits. if we dont have ps360 xbone and ps4 to compare but just ps4 and xbone it will get realy ugly for ms.


Why did 8.2 million more Japanese buy a PS3 than a 360? The PS3's price was so high. Why did 16 million more US citizens buy 360's than PS3's? Why do people play multiplats on consoles at all and not PC; superior versions with free online and modding community? Why aren't we all PC gamers?

Why do you assume the One will remain 100$ more expensive? Why does the advantage in power matter so much? It still took the PS3 7 years to catch the 360 and they were both beaten the weaker Wii. Multiplats have a larger impact on One than on the Wii U, I hope you're not trying to contest that. I'm not implying that multiplats will skyrocket the One into orbit; I'm merely suggesting that it will provide a lot more aid for the One than the Wii U, which is undisputable regardless. There are also franchises like Halo and Gears that have yet to make their presence known; games like those will also help push the One above the Wii U. If the One can't manage to at least double the Wii U's lifetime sales; I'll be very, very surprised.

MS won't simply sit idly by and watch their console being destroyed in weekly sales. There is just no way that the One won't catch the Wii U and stay in front. The Wii U has shown beyond a doubt that it has a severe lack of appeal, whereas the One is brand new and has yet to employ any strategies or even receive any proper system selling software to give us an image of what it can do. People called doom on the Wii U in January/February 2013 and were told to hold off and give it a chance, yet now these people are calling doom on the One after a couple of months on the market.

i dont think the xbone will get a push from multiplats.
its not like last gen when the difference was little. 720 or 1080p is a lot. 



Xenostar on 11 February 2014

Theres a good chance i will get a Wii U before a XO, it does offer a much different experience games wise/



Xenostar on 11 February 2014
shloob said:
As soon as Titanfall hits.


Cant wait to see that 2 Million unit sales bump, will there even be that many in stock WW on titanfall weekend. 



Mummelmann on 11 February 2014
generic-user-1 said:
Mummelmann said:
generic-user-1 said:
Mummelmann said:
Late 2014 probably. I believe both will get a price cut in Q4 this year.

Multiplats are a lot bigger deal on the One, it has a couple of exclusives coming as well and Live is a big deal since the 7th gen.
Smash and Mario Kart will be big, Yoshi, X, Hyrule and Bayo 2 won't do much at all though, I don't understand why people keep listing these games. Especially Bayo 2; this won't even be a blip on the radar on sales lists, it wasn't even very big on PS3 and 360, the only ripples it will cause are the wrinkles on the forehead of those who expect it to have any kind of impact on the overall hardware sales situation. X and Hyrule are fairly safe best for Japan, but Japan is a tiny region for home consoles now and then one big territory that matters the least for the global total today. Yoshi? What the hell? Even the biggest one on the DS managed 2.7 million and this franchise has been more or less irrelevant since the N64's days, this won't put a dent in anyone's armor, only add more wrinkles to the forehead.

Call of Duty, Assassin' Creed, Titanfall, Halo, Destiny, Final Fantasy, FIFA, NBA, Madden, Watchdogs, these are games that will certainly help the One in 2014, while we know that multiplats help the Wii U only marginally (Assassins' Creed 4 sold terribly on Wii U, same with Call of Duty), these are fairly big, or even giant games on the One. Mario Kart and Smash will be huge, no doubt, but they can't bear the brunt of the work alone and be expected to keep the Wii U ahead for long.

To those saying "never"; come on. It's inevitable, the only question is the time frame. October or November 2014 is my guess. Depends a little on release schedules, timing of price cuts, marketing and whether or not MS wisen up and make the Kinect optional.

why should anyone buy a xbone for multiplatts? ps4 has more power and is cheaper.  and it will get worse when the nextgen realy hits. if we dont have ps360 xbone and ps4 to compare but just ps4 and xbone it will get realy ugly for ms.


Why did 8.2 million more Japanese buy a PS3 than a 360? The PS3's price was so high. Why did 16 million more US citizens buy 360's than PS3's? Why do people play multiplats on consoles at all and not PC; superior versions with free online and modding community? Why aren't we all PC gamers?

Why do you assume the One will remain 100$ more expensive? Why does the advantage in power matter so much? It still took the PS3 7 years to catch the 360 and they were both beaten the weaker Wii. Multiplats have a larger impact on One than on the Wii U, I hope you're not trying to contest that. I'm not implying that multiplats will skyrocket the One into orbit; I'm merely suggesting that it will provide a lot more aid for the One than the Wii U, which is undisputable regardless. There are also franchises like Halo and Gears that have yet to make their presence known; games like those will also help push the One above the Wii U. If the One can't manage to at least double the Wii U's lifetime sales; I'll be very, very surprised.

MS won't simply sit idly by and watch their console being destroyed in weekly sales. There is just no way that the One won't catch the Wii U and stay in front. The Wii U has shown beyond a doubt that it has a severe lack of appeal, whereas the One is brand new and has yet to employ any strategies or even receive any proper system selling software to give us an image of what it can do. People called doom on the Wii U in January/February 2013 and were told to hold off and give it a chance, yet now these people are calling doom on the One after a couple of months on the market.

i dont think the xbone will get a push from multiplats.
its not like last gen when the difference was little. 720 or 1080p is a lot. 

Are you suggesting that the One is incapable of rendering games in 1080p? We're two and-a half months into the One and PS4's life cycles, let's wait for something other than sem-rushed launch titles and stressed One/PS4/PS3/PC/360 multiplats to draw conclusions. Heck; even the PS3 was able to output 1080p in games, even though it rarely did. This whole imagined massive difference in the One and PS4's power is getting out of hand, this is very much like the PS3 - 360 all over again.

I'm not saying that the One will get a massive boost from multiplat titles; my point is that it will get a push at all, whereas the Wii U won't, and this, along with exclusives, terrific online, price cuts and having an actual product with appeal underneath, will help the One get the best of the Wii U.

Kinect is the One's biggest detractor now, they should remove it or at least make it optional, UI functions be damned.

Saying that the One won't get any push from multiplats seems strange, that doesn't make any sense, look at the 360's multiplats; even if there was only half the impact on the One; it would be noticeable and for sure bigger than the Wii U's. Besides; we don't know any more about the PS4's future than the others'. I have no doubt it (PS4) will win the 8th gen and by some measure, but people are discounting the One prematurely.