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Viper1 said:
Kasz216 said:

As far as I know they never projected a profit for this year.

They projected 1.1 billion loss...

then didn't alter that projection even after the profitable quarter.

Unfortunately, they did project a $294 million profit.  First paragragh.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/06/idUS300650745820140206

Huh weird.  First article i read on the subject on their profits said "But their 1.1 billion loss projection remains unchanged".

So I was under the assumption they had been planning on it for at least a few months.



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the bad news doesnt get around much?

Every time theres a console battle going on, it ends with MS or nintendo fans turning to balance sheets and stock value because they get destroyed if they continue talking about games and hardware.

The creepy part is that some of them genuinely feel happy that MS or nintendo made a profit while sony didnt - and thats where the real 'fanboy' concern for this topic lies.

Not only have they failed to see this whole profit/loss thing is damage control for MS and nintendo not being able to rival the PS4, but are now trying to turn the table and say its damage control for Sony.

Nice try though, but at the end of the day, end consumers (most of us here, and in the world) will always care about the products a company makes, not their balance sheets.



FlamingWeazel said:
sales2099 said:

Every fan group does this. That isn't what I am talking about. Scale and zeal are the factors I am talking about.

Scale and zeal you cannot possibly prove or know, we are in a  world of 6 + billion people, that is ridiculous to even post. Either way you are indeed generalizing and insulting a large group of people on this site.

It is no secret that the PS4 is the center of attention and positive perception. We can easily come to the conclusion that there are more PS4 fans then Xbox/WiiU fans. Based on that you guys are louder and gang up on others by default.



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FlamingWeazel said:
Shinobi-san said:

Sales, this must be the worst post I have ever seen on vgchartz. In my entire 4 years ive been here. Everything you said is exactly what is wrong with our forums everything.


Yeah was embarassing really. The best part is how he says he cannot be called out for what other xbox fans say, then turns aroud and slams all sony fans with one broad brush....lol.

Actually I said I can and will be called out for other fans and I still feel accountable. Please actually comphrehend my posts before you jump on the bandwagon.



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TL;DR
Didn't Sony just split off their PC & TV divisions, which is expected to cut 1 billion in annual losses? That along with the runaway success of the PS4 should turn this situation around quickly.



Shinobi-san said:
sales2099 said:

It goes on the idea that the fanbase is accountable for eachother. That the vocal speak for the masses and thereby also represent them. We are not individuals that just happen to own the same console....we are part of a team with similar ideas and cultures. Even if some don't agree with eachother, the people of every fanbase are bound by a consencus on certain subjects by default.

I also believe in the idea of "perception = reality" where you are only viewed in the reality of how your peers and enemies view you, not by how you percieve yourself.

I personally see this as no different int he real world, where oversimplified generalizations are the norm. Unfair, biased, and sample sizes not indicative of the whole? You betcha. Still the norm and is human nature to continue to do so. It is simple and immediate rather then doing painstaking research, only to have even that refuted just as easily.

I can most definately be called out for something another number of Xbox fans say but myself personally didn't say. It is unfair, but I feel I am accountable for my fellow fans by default. I apologize and in the future I do my part to change the opinions of fellow fans accordingly.

Sales, this must be the worst post I have ever seen on vgchartz. In my entire 4 years ive been here. Everything you said is exactly what is wrong with our forums everything.

Amen bro. In an ideal world (nevermind anonymous internet forums), we shouldn't be doing these practices and broad strokes. I am just telling it like it is and going with the curve.

And pardon me for "romanticizing" the console war. It is just boring, mundane, and average, to view fans as individuals with the same console as opposed to a unified fanbase with shared ideals and cultures. If I call one of you out, I call your whole fanbase out, regardless of your opinion. Same goes for me.



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sales2099 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
sales2099 said:
 

Every fan group does this. That isn't what I am talking about. Scale and zeal are the factors I am talking about.

Scale and zeal you cannot possibly prove or know, we are in a  world of 6 + billion people, that is ridiculous to even post. Either way you are indeed generalizing and insulting a large group of people on this site.

It is no secret that the PS4 is the center of attention and positive perception. We can easily come to the conclusion that there are more PS4 fans then Xbox/WiiU fans. Based on that you guys are louder and gang up on others by default.

It's the centre of attention because sony out executed MS and did a great job with the system. As for more fans, pure baseless speculation. Further more, more fands has ZERo to do with being more over zealous in defending sony or turning a blind eye to their mistakes then any other fanbase (Other fans have been just as committed to it on here). Again, no matter how you spin it you are taking shots and generalizing an entire fanbase. You are seeing things from a  very lopsided perspective, considering you are often in arguments with sont fans here.



sales2099 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Shinobi-san said:
 

Sales, this must be the worst post I have ever seen on vgchartz. In my entire 4 years ive been here. Everything you said is exactly what is wrong with our forums everything.


Yeah was embarassing really. The best part is how he says he cannot be called out for what other xbox fans say, then turns aroud and slams all sony fans with one broad brush....lol.

Actually I said I can and will be called out for other fans and I still feel accountable. Please actually comphrehend my posts before you jump on the bandwagon.

I fully understood, it was full of inconsistencies, hypocrisy and plain foolishness.



FlamingWeazel said:
sales2099 said:

It is no secret that the PS4 is the center of attention and positive perception. We can easily come to the conclusion that there are more PS4 fans then Xbox/WiiU fans. Based on that you guys are louder and gang up on others by default.

It's the centre of attention because sony out executed MS and did a great job with the system. As for more fans, pure baseless speculation. Further more, more fands has ZERo to do with being more over zealous in defending sony or turning a blind eye to their mistakes then any other fanbase (Other fans have been just as committed to it on here). Again, no matter how you spin it you are taking shots and generalizing an entire fanbase. You are seeing things from a  very lopsided perspective, considering you are often in arguments with sont fans here.

If you seriously believe that Sony fans are on par with Nintendo/MS fans then I have nothing more to say to you. THAT, is baseless on your part.



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