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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony Reports $1.1B Loss - The Bullcrap Needs To Stop

Wow. The video doesn't really seem to have much of a point, but it does illustrate pretty well how bullshit N4G is.

TL;DW: The internet is Sony biased, the N4G community is pathetic. Both pretty true.



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ITT



Sony's goose is cooked. He's right.



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If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

I like this older, more well-presented argument a lot better.

http://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml



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there's a greater amount of playstation fans than either microsoft or nintendo fans...so obviously negative sony-related news tends to get glossed over whereas negative news for microsoft and nintendo get magnified.

sony has sold the most consoles over the past few generations (I assume anyway), and that dominance is reflected in their popularity over the internet. Likewise, Nintendo's falling userbase seems to be reflected in its dwindling fan base.



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I wonder if the maker of this video ever gets around to actually understand why Sony projects a loss (a loss in the future, not the now - he seems to be confused about that aswell) and why investors actually are happy with that (Sony shares up ~4% since the report).

By the way, the thread title should be "Sony forecasts $1.1B loss", it's misleading right now.



J_Allard said:
I liked the part about 60/30 fps and he is exactly right. If an Xbone game gets revealed to be 30 fps it's the end of the world, the console is doomed and holy shit, why not just play on the Atari 2600 because damn bro, do you even lift? 30 fps is so last gen 1080p60 or bust.

But then The Order is revealed to be 30, and potentially 900p, and oh man it's totally cool guys! It's cinematic!

The Nintendo stuff, they dominated last gen, of course they are going to get a lot of venom now that they are failing.


seems you missed the boat on what was said. ill tell you, its okay. IF 1080p THEN 30fps is fine. IF not 1080p, THEN 60 fps is necessary.

the point was to move forward you need either 1080p or 60 fps, ideally both. this reductionist "standard" is quite clearly absurd though as it excludes considerations such as improved models and physics.

so far, the sony games were suitable to this inept standard which is why it was promulgated for so long.

on the multiplat front, if xbone is running 720p 30fps as opposed to ps4 at 1080p 60fps, or any superior combination then you surely can see why this argument holds, while possibly still failing to live up to the "standard" (say ps4 900p 30fps vs xbone 720p 30fps). it's an objective metric by which to offer comparison.

J_Allard said:
I liked the part about 60/30 fps and he is exactly right. If an Xbone game gets revealed to be 30 fps it's the end of the world, the console is doomed and holy shit, why not just play on the Atari 2600 because damn bro, do you even lift? 30 fps is so last gen 1080p60 or bust.

But then The Order is revealed to be 30, and potentially 900p, and oh man it's totally cool guys! It's cinematic!

The Nintendo stuff, they dominated last gen, of course they are going to get a lot of venom now that they are failing.

30/60FPS and resoultion arguments in PS4/Xbone are used for power difference and to show which one does better only in multi platform games, so users can decided they want better PS4 version or inferior Xboxone version.

And the order 1886 is not 900p(1600x900), its 1920x800/1080 and the developer said still not decided about 800/1080. The story driven cinematic games are always uses 30FPS not 60FPS. 

All the comparisions between PS4 and Xbox one are done because they are next gen consoles and PS4 is cheaper than Xbox one which is having  better versoins of Games than Xbone.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

He must be right. We didn't got reportS on sony selling building, downrating, money loss, risk of bankrupt. Ds4 stickers, etc.

And he must be right since I saw more ms (and Ninty for some measure) flocking here and using the chance to shit on Sony and its fanbase than Sony fans defending it.

And his intention was hits and some flaming. Or he hopes to change the Internet ranting and atacking Sony?

At least here what I see is valid negative point over sony after small explanation is accepted and we move on. Fake points are countered to def. Negative points over ninty or ms get longer threads because the fanbase is a lot more defensive. And they like to pose as victms of sony bullies while bashing them.

And since negative News is posted by opposing fanbase of course there will be more negative threads about ms and Ninty if Sony fanbase is bigger.

Or have we seem most negative news over ms and ninty posted by themselves so we can accuse Sony of being hypocrites without being even worse?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Sony is the only company that has been in financial trouble for many years, Im not sure at what level he expects people to talk about it. As for The Order it is not like its running at 60fps on any other console so who's to say it is not a design choice.