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I don't know all details about the company but one thing does make sense. Better to spin off or sell of a money leaking division or department at a loss and focus on other things than keep it around for years losing money and hoping for a better outcome that is unlikely to happen.



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Kasz216 said:
Lafiel said:
yo_john117 said:

Heh, I knew that. I'm not sure why I said Vaio instead of Bravia though >_<

 

You know I'm not entirely sure how seperating their TV line into a different company will make it profitable though.

Well, in my opinion it's more of a sign to investors that the division can easily be sold off, if it continues to post bad results and might make things easier for potential buyers. Additionally it could "motivate" the Bravia management to improve the recovery efforts.

Maybe it enables the cancellation of some old contracts with employees or supplers aswell, but I'm not sure about that one.

Not so much cancellation but....

say Bravia TV company which is owned mostly by Sony goes out of buisness.

Well, they go bankrupt.

Guess who owes all those Bravia factory workers their pensions?

Bravia TV company.

Who owes companies for parts?  
Bravia TV company.

Sony is just a stockholder... and probably just one of many.

 

At least i'm PRETTY sure that's how it works.

 

I could totally be wrong but doesnt this also aide them in the letting go of so many employees due to the really protective labor laws in Japan.



 

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LemonSlice said:

If Samsung offered passive 3D, I'd consider their TVs. As it stands, F them.

BTW, holy shit looooooooooooooool: http://www.samsung.com/sg/activevspassive3d/


Oh my gosh that link is hilarious. I'll stick with my passive LG 3D tv thank you very much lol.



PDF said:
Kasz216 said:
Lafiel said:
yo_john117 said:

Heh, I knew that. I'm not sure why I said Vaio instead of Bravia though >_<

 

You know I'm not entirely sure how seperating their TV line into a different company will make it profitable though.

Well, in my opinion it's more of a sign to investors that the division can easily be sold off, if it continues to post bad results and might make things easier for potential buyers. Additionally it could "motivate" the Bravia management to improve the recovery efforts.

Maybe it enables the cancellation of some old contracts with employees or supplers aswell, but I'm not sure about that one.

Not so much cancellation but....

say Bravia TV company which is owned mostly by Sony goes out of buisness.

Well, they go bankrupt.

Guess who owes all those Bravia factory workers their pensions?

Bravia TV company.

Who owes companies for parts?  
Bravia TV company.

Sony is just a stockholder... and probably just one of many.

 

At least i'm PRETTY sure that's how it works.

 

I could totally be wrong but doesnt this also aide them in the letting go of so many employees due to the really protective labor laws in Japan.

so to sum it up, The tv part still will be in the consolidated reports, but when it goes it has less consequences but the employees are screwed



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Can someone explain to me how "spinning off" a division(tvs) will help make more profit than keeping it under one umbrella.



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CDiablo said:
Can someone explain to me how "spinning off" a division(tvs) will help make more profit than keeping it under one umbrella.

Probably has to do with some accounting magic.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

I am glad they got rid of their VAIO business... Their laptops are the worst, and the value for what you pay is almost Apple bad... Now, no more consumers have to deal with being ripped off from Sony's laptop division... Thank the lord!

And it was pretty clear from the years past that they are gonna axe their TV business eventually too... I think this restructuring/overhaul, while sad as many people loses their jobs, is a good step for Sony. Their brand has been way to tarnished by their shitty, overpriced, underperforming laptops and their over-priced TVs... Asus for Laptops and Samsung for TVs is the way to go imo


You are correct other than 

Lenovo is the best for laptops

 

and whoever is the cheapest for TVs.

 

There is very little difference is a Seiki 1080p LED tv and a Samsung 1080p LED tv. Generally the name brands have slightly better sound but they cost 1/2 as much if you shop around



Dell, HP and now Sony....the future doesn't look bright for the Windows platform at all



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Too bad. Sony makes the best consumer led tv's for gaming and image quality.
The w900a destroys the samsung f8000 for gaming and image quality.
Sony's flip line of laptops are very fairly priced and feel amazing.



vivster said:
Wow, didn't expect that. I thought the TV division would be vital to their unified content network and especially PSNow.

I'm guessing psnow will still be a service, similar to netflix.