That's just nonsense and those games can be played on wii u also. Backwards compatiblity is awesome for people that skipped out on wii or already have a great library of games. 

Fair enough. That's really intersting honestly. Facts: they're fascinating things!

Maybe it's just the fault of the perception that '1080p/60fps' is a standard for things, just because it's standard for video? It really makes you wonder about 4K gaming. Maybe 4K gaming is a few years further off than 4K video.

I'll stop repeating it when people stop posting fud trying to downplay, say there is little or no power gap.

The problem is simply that too many PC gamers can afford GeForce Titans and the like. New software has turned away from originality to same old stuff but graphics whores simply because it is easier to do prettier graphics than work out better ideas. Both consoles are good enough for showing good games with good graphics. Unfortunately many folks have that strange notion that consoles should compete in the high-end graphics department. Add to that the ever growing numbers of young wannabe-journalists on the internet who have never seen an origial game and you have the recipe for "consoles are lame"..

No it really doesn;t, indies in fact right now give ps4 more varity in that department.

If it were possible to make a PC as limited as consoles I am sure someone would but as it stands a PC can do a lot more than a console so of course there will be a price difference.

Its like asking an auto maker to make a car the same price as a motorcycle while keeping every aspect of why an auto is better there. It just doesnt work that way.

Yes I own a PC. Sorry its more powerful than a PS4 and makes me see the console as a waste of money.

Make a console that can do everything my PC can and then price it up.

$500.00 will build you a mroe powerful PC than either console btw. They are using laptop parts not PC parts so they are more like nonportable laptops then PC and in that comaprison they fall even further behind in functionality

You've drifted far off topic. Although I love 'varity' myself, too.

Oh god let's not get started on 4k lol. Were looking at at least 5 years before we see 4k going mainstream. With video streaming becoming the norm and isps looking for ways to cap or charge for extra bandwidth (pay for what you use) 4k simply is to resource heavy and we'll even need a larger disc format because blu-ray as it is now can't hold it. And gaming is even further I think.

I am responding to someone, so it was actually right on topic. As for my typo what's your point?

Build it... thus lays the problem, im a consumer i want it handed to me on a sliver platter.  

Building it is a big fuck that to me, all the function i want is buy it plug it in and play.  Not ponder whcih  part i should buy build it assemble it install software workout the bugs hope i didnt fuck something up and maybe finaly play a damn game.  Console is just so much easier and faster to get near instant gratification.  

I "could" build a more powerfull car them most out of the factory.  But i still buy one of the dealer lot and not build it myself.