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Won't be long untill this hits the western media.

http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/991143 (and a google translate)

In the law enforcement agencies , there is evidence that in the Crimea under the guise unknown Ukrainian side on the night of 3 March 4, 3-4 planning the murder of Russian soldiers. All this in order to legalize the entry of Russian troops on the territory of our country. This was announced by Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Mykola Velykovych .

- We would like to see these people come to their senses . Because this way you provoke bloodshed that is not in the Crimea. It is very important that you realize that people's lives - the most important value. We encourage you shamenitsya ! We urge you, stop! Keep in mind that the situation is being monitored, the situation is under control . All perpetrators who are involved in it, will be punished - said Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine



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The western media will probably ignore it and continue talking about the Oscars or some Celebrity scandal.



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Mnementh said:
mai said:
DD_Bwest said:
Mnementh said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSacjPHhVs

if your going to post links to youtube that dont contain any english,  you could atleast translate for us..   Lots of people around the world are interested, but we dont all speak ukrainian, or Russian for that matter

Nothing of interest there, description in Ukrainian says: "Two PR deputies have fallen into hands of the people", PR stands for Party of Regions, used to be a ruling party before the revolt.

And brought back to the parliament. As context I heard, to legitimize the decisions of the parliament, enough members are needed to vote.


Reminds me of US politcs. 

 

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/116381289.html



XboneWins said:
Won't be long untill this hits the western media.

http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/991143 (and a google translate)

In the law enforcement agencies , there is evidence that in the Crimea under the guise unknown Ukrainian side on the night of 3 March 4, 3-4 planning the murder of Russian soldiers. All this in order to legalize the entry of Russian troops on the territory of our country. This was announced by Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Mykola Velykovych .

- We would like to see these people come to their senses . Because this way you provoke bloodshed that is not in the Crimea. It is very important that you realize that people's lives - the most important value. We encourage you shamenitsya ! We urge you, stop! Keep in mind that the situation is being monitored, the situation is under control . All perpetrators who are involved in it, will be punished - said Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine


I don't see how killing soldiers during an illegal invasion somehow makes said invasion legal.



Kasz216 said:
XboneWins said:
Won't be long untill this hits the western media.

http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/991143 (and a google translate)

In the law enforcement agencies , there is evidence that in the Crimea under the guise unknown Ukrainian side on the night of 3 March 4, 3-4 planning the murder of Russian soldiers. All this in order to legalize the entry of Russian troops on the territory of our country. This was announced by Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Mykola Velykovych .

- We would like to see these people come to their senses . Because this way you provoke bloodshed that is not in the Crimea. It is very important that you realize that people's lives - the most important value. We encourage you shamenitsya ! We urge you, stop! Keep in mind that the situation is being monitored, the situation is under control . All perpetrators who are involved in it, will be punished - said Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine


I don't see how killing soldiers during an illegal invasion somehow makes said invasion legal.

Not sure what legality has to do with it, anyway the news are bollocks.

"The incident will happen in 3 hours from now" -- he's probbaly referring to ultimatum that was supposedely given to blocked Ukrainian forces in Crimea by Russian side, but failed to convert the time zones correctly as according to the source the ultimatum has ended only an hour ago. Needless to say the news are fake, was debunked right away, but has been reported by multiple media outlets by that time like Reuters and Interfax. Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine warning about provocation (the video above) is probably coming from the same source, though generally speaking provocations are always possible.

Given the situation it's a good idea to check every bit of information against other sources, however this one was obvious "white noise", only strong bias could let you to believe that it's true, especially in the context it's has been presented.

UPD: The closest to the news about alleged assault on Ukrainian forces I was able to find is some turmoil is taking place near Ukrainian navy HQ now. The source didn't say who or why. Credibility of the source is zero, could be true, could be fake or anything in between.



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The day was slow on news about Ukraine, which is not that bad, just some bla-blah-blah-logy of polititians that doesn't matter much. So I'll just post some pics from occupied Crimea :D

 



Oh those bloody Russians... They've eaten these children and fotojournalist alive right after photo was made...



Sharu said:
Oh those bloody Russians... They've eaten these children and fotojournalist alive right after photo was made...

LOL. Yes, this is basically the undertone on the news here in Germany.



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XboneWins said:
mai said:

XboneWins said:

Bet on russians staging an incident so that they have an excuse for the war.

Zappykins is that you?


A russian, is that you?

What a great counter argument wow!



More phone tape leaks. Ashton and what's his name, Estonian foreign affairs minister.

RT is making a big story out of it, specifically mentioning the fact that snipers who killed a bunch of people (both protesters and police to escalate violence, that's old trick I must say) have been hired by Maidan leaders. Not sure who (among sane ones) has ever considered that was Yanukovich, but it seems like revelation for Ashton. Personally doubt these killings could be blamed on triumvirat of Maidan leaders, yet they probably were aware of the snipers, that's Nazis or some third force methinks.

Oh, and another topic, Ashton is living in self-constucted reality that have little to do with actual world around -- that was my impression -- sucky politician and absolute puppet.