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Blowing The Whistle On XB1M13, MS And Machinima’s Covert Xbox One Campaign

First off, we didn’t think this deal would become a scandal, not by a long shot. We were provided an email by a YouTube personality that didn’t see fit to sign the agreement and take part in the XB1M13 promo. Much like the party that provided us the email, we weren’t making it public maliciously. In fact, if you read our article, you can see that we were pretty neutral about the situation. That was before the onion started to peel.

Days later, the terms of the promotion were made public and that’s when this whole thing really blew up. We had no idea that MS and Machinima had legally bound those taking part to not disparage Machinima, Xbox One or its software during their videos; but it appears they had. On top of that, participants were similarly silenced on the fact that they were receiving a promotional compensation rate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many companies have done similar promotions with Machinima in the past (above). EA, the E3 Expo, PAX, Comic Con etc. have all tapped the popular YouTube channel for a bit of promotion. The difference lies in the terms of their agreement. Past promotions didn’t assert the same secrecy as XB1M13 did, and that’s why I consider them to be above-board, and business as usual. I thought the same about Microsoft’s campaign until further details emerged.

As it turns out, Machinima and Microsoft teamed up back in November to promote the launch of Xbox One, but the terms of the deal were less severe. As of now, Microsoft hasn’t commented on this whole deal, and I wish they would. It just doesn’t make sense that they’d sanction this type of promo internally and elicit Machinima to dole out the deal. Xbox One is selling just fine on its own without soliciting YouTube personalities to praise it. But the real tragedy lies in the 81 YouTuber’s that have signed the agreement. They’re receiving the worst of it. Their reputation is tarnished from this point on.

As for the individual that provided us with the information initially, they’re now a bit worried they sit in a boiling kettle. As we said, they never agreed to the terms of the promotion, so they shouldn’t have any legal recourse over this, but suffice to say, they never meant to damage so many people in the process.

As for the sketchy business practices that our original article brought to light, I stand by my earlier estimation; it’s nothing short of bribery. Moving forward it will be interesting to see what other covert dealings take place within the industry. Reports seem to indicate Machinima having a dedicated app on the Xbox 360 as the reason for this partnership, does this mean that others whom have apps on the 360 have reached similar deals? Only time will tell.

Source: http://www.igameresponsibly.com/2014/01/21/blowing-the-whistle-on-xb1m13-ms-and-machinimas-covert-xbox-one-campaign/



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Who gives a shit, so sick how political gaming has become lately, i swear it's like we spend more time discussing trivial shit than actually games



Shyakugaun said:
Who gives a shit, so sick how political gaming has become lately, i swear it's like we spend more time discussing trivial shit than actually games


I care a little bit I mean it would suck if I trusted one of these reviewers and it turns out he was hiding bugs about the game or things like that.  I don't have an X1 yet so it doesn't matter to much but I do want to get one and I do like listening to reviews mainly to see if I can learn anything new about the game that videos aren't showing me.  Paying people to do reviews is one thing, manipulating the things that can be said in the review is really low honestly. Either way who wouldn't expect something like this from a big company like Microsoft companies like this are very shady.



We're used to these Microsoft tricks by now. Pff so pathetic that this is their standard!



Who were the Youtubers who actually thought the promo deal was a good thing? I haven't noticed any blatant/overblown praise in any of the gaming channels I follow, so they must've been obscure or small youtubers.



I am the Playstation Avenger.

   

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kowenicki said:
so what?


Then why post in this thread if you have zero to add? Calling out companies for this type of unethical, underhanded, and in this case illegal activity is better then half the threads on here. People will defend coroporations until the death, sad.



Paying for good press...People complained Activision were evil for slipping some dough to get good reviews on COD from IGN, but M$ takes it to the next level.

Honestly at this point there really is nothing more I can say about M$, only sigh.



 

kowenicki said:
FlamingWeazel said:
kowenicki said:
so what?


Then why post in this thread if you have zero to add? Calling out companies for this type of unethical, underhanded, and in this case illegal activity is better then half the threads on here. People will defend coroporations until the death, sad.

Im not defending them, I just dont give a shit what companies do in this regard.  I have a free mind.

check my latter post.

Turning a blind eye is just as bad...this crap should be called out and thankfully it is.



You know it's bad when POLYGON reports something negative about Microsoft.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/20/5327814/report-microsoft-paying-youtube-producers-xbox-one-machinima



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

kowenicki said:
Somini said:
We're used to these Microsoft tricks by now. Pff so pathetic that this is their standard!

Seriously?  Get off your high horse.

I doubt there is any major corporation that hasnt at some time used shills or covert marketing techniques.  hell Sony has a massive army of unpaid ones. lol

oh look...

LOS ANGELES - A judge approved an agreement calling for Sony Pictures Entertainment to pay $1.5 million to settle a class-action lawsuit accusing the studio of citing a fake movie critic in ads for several films, an attorney said Tuesday.

Oops...  I wonder how many times companies get caught and how many times they dont.

So your saying cause other companies do underhanded things that Microsoft should be given a free pass?