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NYANKS on 21 January 2014
selnor1983 said:
NYANKS said:
selnor1983 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
selnor1983 said:
FlamingWeazel said:

Did you read the article? These arrangements are supposed to be transparent, you are not allowed to keep the advertisement a secret, thus the "Being investigated for FTC regulations" It is not the same as what others do. Still waiting for the other cases where this has happened........


Theres nothing secret about it!

Hello.

Obviously never even read the article, participants are NOT ALLOWED to say they were a part of a pormotion, which breaks FTC regulations.........MS already are blaming machima for it so they know it is wrong.


Oops. Sorry I didnt realise there was info edited. LOL.

The article says Machina wrote the E-mail. How is it saying is Microsofts fault? I doubt with all its lawyers and its years of experience with Advertising that MS would make such a BIG mistake.

I find it funny peoploe twisting this onto Microsoft when the E-mail never came from them. Typical..

EDIT: Machina got caughht out last E3 with something else in the same way. So twice its Machinima, but becaue its Xbox this time its somehow Microsoft being ilegal? Machinima will get done for it if anyone. Microsoft made no such NDA.

The tthread title should be changed to be in line with the article.

Do you think Machinima decided to advertise for Microsoft out of the goodness of their hearts?

No. But achinima has admitted to making the E-mail. MS had nothing to do with that E-mail. And in Macinimas defence its worded about the Monetary value not the promotion itself. So As Microsoft andMacinima point out. Its not illegal it turns out. Nothing will come of this smart marketing.

Not morally defensible in the slightest, but perhaps legal.  I wonder if youtubers are covered by federal regulations, because it seems as though they cannot announce that money changed hands, while also being unable to give a negative review if they don't like the product.  Not cool for the conumer at all.



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Damagon on 21 January 2014
selnor1983 said:

No. But achinima has admitted to making the E-mail. MS had nothing to do with that E-mail. And in Macinimas defence its worded about the Monetary value not the promotion itself. So As Microsoft andMacinima point out. Its not illegal it turns out. Nothing will come of this smart marketing.


So  this  is  just  coincidence?  



And no it isn't just about the monetary value either, as you can clearly read it in the last  box.



Ganoncrotch on 21 January 2014

While I sort of agree with ioi here that no noteworthy legal action would ever come of any of this, I think this was a scheme someone at Microsoft thought would get some good PR for a fairly tiny amount of cash (I think the total payout from this is around 4k dollars) I think that has absolutely blown up in their faces. If they wanted people on social media talking about their system they sure got that... but in absolutely every way they didn't want.

I was thinking about the other feedback part of this, that people would attack positive videos about the X1 and its games for a bit on youtube because people would obviously think they're being paid off. But all a youtuber would need to do would be mention this issue at the start of the video, which to anyone who has read about it would know that would break the terms of the promotion if they were trying to make additional money from the video directly from Microsoft/Machinima. Would be less headwreck than getting the scorn of all the hate going about on youtube/twitter atm and still be able to talk about games you love.



Why not check me out on youtube and help me on the way to 2k subs over at www.youtube.com/stormcloudlive

Ganoncrotch on 21 January 2014
Damagon said:
selnor1983 said:

No. But achinima has admitted to making the E-mail. MS had nothing to do with that E-mail. And in Macinimas defence its worded about the Monetary value not the promotion itself. So As Microsoft andMacinima point out. Its not illegal it turns out. Nothing will come of this smart marketing.


So  this  is  just  coincidence?  


And no it isn't just about the monetary value either, as you can clearly read it in the last  box.


Nope. No difference at all there! and now I'm 3 dollars richer. Oh wait... I meant to leave that last part out, but without that you wouldn't be able to tell I was joking or that it wasn't actually my opinion that I was giving.... so that's how disclosure works huh?



Why not check me out on youtube and help me on the way to 2k subs over at www.youtube.com/stormcloudlive

Fusioncode on 22 January 2014
selnor1983 said:
Absolute genius idea. This is why Microsoft make money. Because their advertising works.

Well Done Microsoft.

Well done? They've had a massive PR backlash that made everyone lose trust in them for the umpteenth time. Someone, somewhere, is getting fired over this. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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selnor1983 on 22 January 2014
Damagon said:
selnor1983 said:

No. But achinima has admitted to making the E-mail. MS had nothing to do with that E-mail. And in Macinimas defence its worded about the Monetary value not the promotion itself. So As Microsoft andMacinima point out. Its not illegal it turns out. Nothing will come of this smart marketing.


So  this  is  just  coincidence?  



And no it isn't just about the monetary value either, as you can clearly read it in the last  box.

You realise it came out yesterday Sony, Samsung, Nintendo and EA all have this exact same wording and have done the exact same thing? EA paid $20 CPM. 0.0

Also even worse still it was brought to our attention that Sony have REALLY been illegal and made up FALSE reviews. Thats not even advertising.



selnor1983 on 22 January 2014
ganoncrotch said:
While I sort of agree with ioi here that no noteworthy legal action would ever come of any of this, I think this was a scheme someone at Microsoft thought would get some good PR for a fairly tiny amount of cash (I think the total payout from this is around 4k dollars) I think that has absolutely blown up in their faces. If they wanted people on social media talking about their system they sure got that... but in absolutely every way they didn't want.

I was thinking about the other feedback part of this, that people would attack positive videos about the X1 and its games for a bit on youtube because people would obviously think they're being paid off. But all a youtuber would need to do would be mention this issue at the start of the video, which to anyone who has read about it would know that would break the terms of the promotion if they were trying to make additional money from the video directly from Microsoft/Machinima. Would be less headwreck than getting the scorn of all the hate going about on youtube/twitter atm and still be able to talk about games you love.


Sony, Samsung, EA and Nintendo have all been shown yesterday to do this exact same thing. This isnt news. Its only come to serfucae because someone wants to use Microsoft as the devil. But unearthed something they ALL do. ROFL. That backfired on the GAF user didnt it.



TanukiTrooper on 22 January 2014

Bribing independent reviewers? *slow clap* Such a shady move.



Sal.Paradise on 22 January 2014
Simulacrum said:
Xbox One is the best console ever made.
Microsoft is the best company ever.
Bonus:Halo is best game series ever made.

XB1M13

 

now i get the MS bucks not you



fps_d0minat0r on 22 January 2014
selnor1983 said:
ganoncrotch said:
While I sort of agree with ioi here that no noteworthy legal action would ever come of any of this, I think this was a scheme someone at Microsoft thought would get some good PR for a fairly tiny amount of cash (I think the total payout from this is around 4k dollars) I think that has absolutely blown up in their faces. If they wanted people on social media talking about their system they sure got that... but in absolutely every way they didn't want.

I was thinking about the other feedback part of this, that people would attack positive videos about the X1 and its games for a bit on youtube because people would obviously think they're being paid off. But all a youtuber would need to do would be mention this issue at the start of the video, which to anyone who has read about it would know that would break the terms of the promotion if they were trying to make additional money from the video directly from Microsoft/Machinima. Would be less headwreck than getting the scorn of all the hate going about on youtube/twitter atm and still be able to talk about games you love.


Sony, Samsung, EA and Nintendo have all been shown yesterday to do this exact same thing. This isnt news. Its only come to serfucae because someone wants to use Microsoft as the devil. But unearthed something they ALL do. ROFL. That backfired on the GAF user didnt it.


If thats true, they should be punished equally. (btw do you have a source for this? I wouldnt be surprised at all, but just need something concrete to go on)

It still doesnt change the situation for MS.