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chapset on 18 January 2014

siding with the gamers is the worst move nintendo can make, they need to go back into those ultra casual and the regular ones



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oniyide on 18 January 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
Its so funny how Sony and Microsoft s "unsustainable business models" have given them a future and how Nintendo's suddenly looking for an escape route. Life.


i think people were saying that because they saw what was happening with WIi U and never thought to themselves, that that console was the issue and tried to play it off as the would all have problems. that of course was wrong.



NintendoPie on 18 January 2014

No. They'll pull a Nintendo and release something like the Wii off the backs of the GameCube.



Mr Khan on 18 January 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
Its so funny how Sony and Microsoft s "unsustainable business models" have given them a future and how Nintendo's suddenly looking for an escape route. Life.

Because Nintendo abandoned what made the Wii successful, and the Sony/MS model is still unsustainable.



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Riot Of The Blood on 18 January 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
I don't think they want to go for a console that has the most amount of power... Least not as long as Iwata is still the CEO that is... I think what Nintendo is banking on is trying to come out with something new and "innovative" to make their console sell rather than just trying to please the "hardcore" Sony/MS fans with pure raw power and nothing out of the norm and I think they have every right to think like that as well... Its just their execution that failed hard and it had every right to fail hard cause the execution was so bad...

If the wiiU was just as powerful as the ps4 and costed $400 and didn't have a gamepad, would you really buy a wiiU instead of a ps4? Like really? Would you actually give up games like Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, GT and etc for Mario, Smash, Zelda, X and etc? Probably not cause thats why people choose to go with Sony in the first place


If Nintendo released an up to date console on par with the PS4 for only 400$, I would graldy choose it over the PS4. On top of that I would most likely go Nintendo only for the generation. Nintendo's latest consoles have just been terible for gamers, and it forces people like me to have to default to Sony's console. I'm not really a deticated Playstation fan. I've always prefered Nintendo's consoles, because they have historicly offered the better gaming experience. However, I'm not going to tolerate a console like the Wii with it's poorly excecuted controls, lack of HD support, and limited online features. Nintendo needs to bring the gaming side of their consoles up to todays standards. It's the same concept as wanting to play a multi-plat on a console instead of the handheld version. Realisticly, the handeld version of the game is not going to be as good as the console version. That's the position I feel Nintendo's consoles are in right now. 



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DamnTastic on 18 January 2014

if nintendo can make a comeback like with the 3DS or like sony with the ps3.
Hats off, I will be impressed then. I'd like to see this happen.



DucksUnlimited on 18 January 2014
Shadow1980 said:
DucksUnlimited said:
The Gamecube was a "powerful hardware console at an attractive price."

The right moves for Sony =/= the right moves for Nintendo.


The problem with that example is that A) Nintendo had weak third-party support and this was before third-party multiplat titles were the norm, B) the PS2 was already at a very attractive price itself, having been reduced to a mere $200 in May 2002, so most consumers spend $50 more on a system that had a ton more games, and C) the PS2 also had a massive lead over the GC, and it had already passed sold more by the end of 2002 than the GC did its whole life, not to mention the GC was having to compete with the Xbox for what little remaining market share there was. Third-party support is crucial, and while the Wii did show that Nintendo can have a best-selling system without strong third-party support, I believe it's the exception to the rule. That system got lucky by having a considerably lower price point than the competition ($250 vs. $400 for the 360 and $500-600 for the PS3) and good marketing that really sold gamers on new ways to play games. The NES and SNES weren't particulary unique or innovative, but they did have strong third-party support which helped propel them to victory in their respective generations. When they first starting having problem courting third parties by sticking with cartridges with the N64, that was also when they started losing to Sony. Nintendo cannot subsist solely on their own first-party output, and the "Wii model" of "less powerful than the competition but less expensive and more innovative" is too risky. They went to the well again with the Wii U and lightning failed to strike twice. They can't afford to do that again. The only way they can get third parties back and making the big AAA games for their systems is if their next system is on par with the other ninth-gen systems, not something only barely more powerful than the PS4 and XBO.

I think a large portion of the third party issue is due to demographics though. Hence why third party games were more prevelant and generally sold better on the Xbox than the Cube, despite similar power/ install bases.



small44 on 18 January 2014

They should make a innovative and powerfull console at a good price.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

fps_d0minat0r on 18 January 2014
Mr Khan said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Its so funny how Sony and Microsoft s "unsustainable business models" have given them a future and how Nintendo's suddenly looking for an escape route. Life.

Because Nintendo abandoned what made the Wii successful, and the Sony/MS model is still unsustainable.

Or that the market that made the wii successful abandoned nintendo?



ninetailschris on 18 January 2014
Conina said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
DucksUnlimited said:
The Gamecube was a "powerful hardware console at an attractive price."

The right moves for Sony =/= the right moves for Nintendo.

Exactly. Hardcore gamers abandoned Nintendo years ago.

Nintendo needs to go for another thing like the Wii. I was surprised they thought the Wii U controller would be as popular as the Wiimote.

And Casual gamers abandoned the Wii for tablets, smartphones and Kinect.

So they would really find a unique thing with a great appeal, that can't be copied in a heartbeat on other platforms.

Actually they didn't. Maybe you don't look at the charts when it comes to casual games. just dance 4 sold best on wii.



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