Smaller revenue for a big corporation = smaller profit margin. My children, KEEP talking out of your ass, you're making yourself look like someone who is completely clueless. I mean, comon.

Also, I searched you on miiverse, it says user not found. I own a wiiU since day 1. You're the pathetic one in this thread, no one else. Proof is, you couldn't even counter any of my arguments. Instead, you just keep calling me names. In which, it just proves that I'm right or else you'd be bringing out some proof.

I disagree with the idea that the Wii was a freak success. The Wii was serving an underserved end of the market, and since Nintendo bought into the industry bullshit that these customers were lesser customers, have not been serving them properly. The casuals moved on because of Nintendo's bungled handling of the latter phase of the Wii's lifecycle, not because they simply don't care about gaming and would rather engage on phones.

The Wii U's entire problems are that Nintendo was once again trying their hand at making what they think passes for a red ocean console, but as I said in another thread, the idea of making something like a PS3 or a 360 is just completely out of Nintendo's frame of reference. Their engineers *could* make a competitive console, but they're so wrapped up in the idea of "withered technology" that any attempts at making a competitive console end up creating something strange, in-between, and undesirable.

Ergo, Nintendo either needs to completely clean house at their hardware engineering department and rebuild from scratch (which isn't going to happen), or sit back and try to focus on applying their strengths to the market needs again.

1 You proved nothing, you can game on the wiiU using Nintys own pro controller.  Past gen is irrelevent, even ninty moved on from waggle why dont you.
2 you telling any one anything does not make it a fact.
3 keep lying.
4 then they are bigger idiots then i though, their only saving grace through the gens has been they did not lsoe on hardware.
5 other then the wii each gen their console sales have dropped, and are nearing irrelevency with the Wiiu.  

Big revenue means nothing when you are posting a loss, do you not understand that concept ?  Nintys greatest profits are from their software, with its hardware failing its profits will drop like a rock by the virtue of selling on a tiny user base.  For a game dev like them smaller revenue yet big profits is ideal, mainting posative margins.  Not foolishly losing money to grow revenue hoping to eak out a tiny profit.

You cry hardware revenue yet dont get the inmplications that they are operating at a loss, and they cant profit from software if there is no hardware sold.

Only pathetic ones are the people that cant open their minds to the possablity of 3rd party and what befeits there may be.  This is all just a hypothetical discussion yet so many are so blind and delusional you can even fanthom a possability of them achiving success being trd party.

If I'm reading this right, prior to 2012 Sony was overall in the positive going all the way back to 1996. The PS3 destroyed all the PS2 profits, but assuming the PS4 is a hit, as it appears to be, they could be back in the positive in as little as 2 years. Not as grim as people paint it.

why are you pulling stuff that i didnt say. the situation for WIi and Wii U are NOT comparable period. Wii was good out the gate. Wii U isnt. Was anyone thinking Wii U was going to do THIS badly? No they didnt, any suggesting was deemed trolling. The Wii U hasnt even been out two years and you are talking about some future imaginary console? I was talking strictly about WIi U and i thought you were doing the same. 

No no, I think you missed my point. WiiU is indeed in a very bad situation. And it is indeed not comparable to the wii. I never argued that. I was simply taking wii and DS as examples to show you that Nintendo's current situation today in home consoles does not mean that they won't have any success in that market in the future. Which is why I was trying to solidify my argument by bringing in the transition from gen 6 to gen 7 (20 million consoles to 100 million consoles and 80 million handhelds to 150 million handhelds).

I know that you're banned, but i'll still take the time to answer you. 

1) Is nintendoland possible without the gamepad? Is wiiparty U possible without the gamepad? Granted, as I said earlier in this thread, currently, they haven't done much to prove why the gamepad is important. The wii examples were to prove you that Nintendo games can indeed not be possible on other system (or atleast some of them). Also, you can be damn sure that the next zelda will be using the gamepad.

2) This is where I highly doubt you have a wiiU (and the fact that I can't find you on miiverse doesn't help). If you actually owned one, you would know that the gamepad is not even close to being a so called tablet. The only caracteristic that it has in common with a tablet is the touch screen.

3) I'm not lying, I searched multiple times and it says "user not found".

4) Atleast you admitted that you were wrong. And I actually agree with you, they were indeed idiots to sell the system at a loss from the start. They should have known better imo. But like I said earlier, they probably won't repeat that mistake (I hope not).

5) True, however, we have no idea where the wiiU will end up in terms of sales. It has an unprecedented sales curve. For all we know, sales could relatively blow up this year. We have no idea.

And yes, I understand that revenue =/= profits. However, what you can't seem to understand is that, for a big corporation like Nintendo, it needs X amount of revenue in order to profit. They would need to replace a good portion of that large chunk of revenue that they would lose by going third party. And quite frankly, they wouldn't. Not only would they get less money per game sold as a 3rd party publisher, but they would also lose all their royalties.

From their financials. 

Like I said in my previous post, they would be losing royalties, sales from hardware and they would get less money per game sold. I highly doubt they would recover all that revenue lost. Also, I agree with you, it would reduce the overall cost. However, not nearly enough to recoup all that profit that they could be potentially making. Unless they downsize considerably. 

Put it that way, Nintendo would have way less potential profits by only publishing games then by selling hardware+ selling games. Obviously, as I said multiple times, the situation of the wiiU is not ideal (assuming it stays at that level base for the reminder of it's life time). However, completely quitting hardware would be a dumb decision. Also, i'd like to point out that publishing Nintendo games on other people consoles would hurt their handheld business aswell. 

Too many cons vs so few pros. 

fair enough, but you are still jumping the gun. This gen JUST started, lets worry about it for now.

So, if I am counting all right, Sony only profited a billion of bucks all these years? It seems lolable tbq frank unrealistic. No company would put so much work all this time in games and consoles only to have a billion of profit for almost 20 years.

EDIT: I could barely see the negative sign, so really shows how unrealistic that is. Anyways, if there's a source I'd be glad to analize those numbers.