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So, 3D World is not moving consoles

3DS won't reach 20m this year 17 16.67%
 
3DWorld is forecasted to desapear 8 7.84%
 
Galaxy 3 will save the U 22 21.57%
 
Nothing stops this train 54 52.94%
 
Total:101

Super Mario 3D World is an amazing game, but the market kick into Nintendo's stubborn nuts is still very well deserved given how disconnected Nintendo has been from servicing the "core" gamer demographic while it tries to attract back all those "casual" gamers that moved to iOS / Android many years back.



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Plan A: Attack 3D World based on its quality.
Yeah, I personally put a stop to that.

Plan B: Attack 3D World based on its sales.
A viable strategy, provided that you're not writing it off as a "flop". Oh wait... you did.

Plan C: Attack 3D World based on Wii U sales.
This seems more critical of Wii U than 3D World itself.

Plan D: Attack 3D World because it's not Galaxy 3.
You're right. Nintendo shouldn't try new things, especially when a new console is out.



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I think it`s best to wait for sales in the coming months and see what`s the attach ratio for Mario 3D World and Wii U and if Wii U will do better in weekly sales or not.
I have seen comments online on how Wii U is hard to find, though.



RolStoppable said:
Pavolink said:

It´s not as expensive as it looks.

Firstly, the new Metroid. It can use the same engine as Other M, just fix the problems with the game (story, linearity, voice actors). It's a second oportunity with the same assests.

Retro's Mass Effect doesn't need to have the same presentation. If the gameplay is good it will cover the part of the game itself. But, they can aslo do a Zelda Spin-off starring Sheik in the Ocarina of Time world.

Futuristic Zelda, well. I'm pretty sure at this point the team has a lot of artwork and draws that can help. And it can share the same engine as the Zelda game.

Pokemon Red Remake. The game is already done in the sense of story, gameplay and music. It will be costly, but not as expensive as for example Skyward Sword.

None of the projects I said needs more than 2-3 years of development and can sell more than games like Pikmin or WWHD.

I don't think you are completely honest here. You say that limited development budgets are okay, yet you were among the people who criticized SM3DW for reusing assets, laziness, blandness etc.

No more than 2-3 years is still a lot of time for a single game. Selling more than Pikmin and WWHD... that's not really an argument in favor of viability.

Galaxy 2 reuses the same assets. That's lazy, yet the game is good and even some (wrongly) believe it's better than the first one. I love to see OoT 3D upresed port on my 3DS, even when I know it's the same artstyle. And that's the key, if the artstyle is good it can be used more than one time, example Celda.

3DWorld plays like a 3D SMB3 version and looks like something between Galaxy and NSMB. Nothing bad but not as spectacular as Galaxy.

Also, 2-3 years while is still a lot of time compared to the annual releases, it's normal development time for those franchises that are a must buy. You can't expect to do a must buy for the core Nintendo fanbase in six months that it's not a port.

And finally, selling more than Pikmin and WWHD is still a good argument considering Nintendo believes both are must haves a not just filler games. And we are talking about must buys.



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3D world and Pikmin didn't work, but surely SSB and Mario Kart will !

^delusional



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RenCutypoison said:

3D world and Pikmin didn't work, but surely SSB and Mario Kart will !

^delusional


The later are bigger franchises than the former. Hence why Wii outsold combined in US at April 2008 both Xbox360/PS3 in the same month the oscar worthy GTAIV launched.



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Pavolink said:
RenCutypoison said:

3D world and Pikmin didn't work, but surely SSB and Mario Kart will !

^delusional


The later are bigger franchises than the former. Hence why Wii outsold combined in US at April 2008 both Xbox360/PS3 in the same month the oscar worthy GTAIV launched.


Bigger IP than super mario world ? That's a god tier classic. Same level as kart and SSB to me.



RenCutypoison said:
Pavolink said:
RenCutypoison said:

3D world and Pikmin didn't work, but surely SSB and Mario Kart will !

^delusional


The later are bigger franchises than the former. Hence why Wii outsold combined in US at April 2008 both Xbox360/PS3 in the same month the oscar worthy GTAIV launched.


Bigger IP than super mario world ? That's a god tier classic. Same level as kart and SSB to me.


I consider 3D World in the 3D Mario franchise, separate from the 2D ones.



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osed125 said:
oniyide said:
osed125 said:

Looking at the holiday sales it did move a lot of consoles. Just not as much as Nintendo wanted.


keyword holidays. pretty sure that contributed to the increase in sales more than 3d world did.

At this point it would be speculation. Without 3D World there was basically nothing to buy other than WW HD, Wii Sports Club (which is only from the Eshop), Wii Fit U (only Eshop I belive). Talking about popular franchises here, stuff like Monster Hunter and Pikmin don't really sell that well.

it would be speculation on both our parts. systems always gets boost in the holidays especially Ninty systems. People buy presents, there are all kinds of deals, bundles. We might have to agree to disagree at this point.



It's still an awesome game.



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