If I have a boat and it's sinking I can patch it but no matter how I try it's going to leak water either way, it will do it slower but It will sink either way. The only way to escape is by swimming. If I don't know how to swim I'm fucked up!

Nintendo is that boat, and right now I have no clue if they know how to swim.

Are you suggesting they go third party?  I personally think that if Nintendo is only interested in creating a console that they themselves can have any success on, then they are being anti consumer.  It's like if Disney only released their movies on HDDVD and forced people to buy an HDDVD player for the privledge of watching only their movies.  That's an anti consumer approach.

Wont happen this year. I think 250 is the magic number for them. That probably wont happen this year either unless things go really bad. They got some big games comeing this year so im sure they will try to move as many as they can at the current price. Probably see 250 next year

People are over estimating Mario Kart. Yes it will sell very well, but it won't do wonders because off some very simple facts:

-People who play Mario Kart don't really care about better graphics
-There are over 30 million Wii's out there with Mario Kart
- If people want to play Mario Kart they will just play on the Wii
- Even if they want to play on a WIi-U, Mario Kart Wii works on Wii-U

What I am suggesting is that Nintendo right now is facing a crisis and right now they know how to patch up the boat but once the system does bad and next gen comes I wonder if nintendo will learn how to swim and go back to the shore or drown in the sea.

Oh, okay.

$300 now, possibly $250 by next xmas is it continues to not sell well. Maybe $200 2 years from now at the earliest, mainly because they can't afford such a loss-per-console. They have to try and at least break even. I think the only time Nintendo's ever taken a loss on a console was when they sold the Gamecube bundles for $99 in 2004. It might happen again, but not for quite a while. Until at least 2 years from now they'll be focusing on bundles.

In Europe the wii u is outsold by the original wii which is already a market completely saturated. There is a rejection of wii u because its so difficult to place. It really is only a console for Nintendo's games and other wii u exclusive games. I bought one because I love wii u games but understand the apathy. Sadly most gamers will be better off with a ps3, 360, ps4 or xbox one. Even the wii has a stronger case in many ways (mainly price).

Ultimately the wii u can only fight back with brilliant games and a more competitive price. Games wise there isn't enough so price is Nintendo's main weapon. If it is sufficiently cheap then more people will consider buying it.

It's not a great strategy. Nintendo only have themselves to blame. At least they have the 3DS to keep the money rolling in.

Hm, you know what, I'v never really thought about it, but a Gamepad redesign might actually be a good idea. Smaller, thinner, sleeker, more in line with today's tablets. It will likely end up being less comfortable to hold for actual gaming, but it might just make it look a whole lot more attractive and less intimidating.

The Gamepad's a huge contributor to Wii U's pricepoint, so if Nintendo could pull of a redesign like that, which also saves them money, obviously they ought to go for it. Same goes for the Wii U console itself, though that's already pretty sleek as it is, and I doubt they'd redesign it anytime soon. The Gamepad though... I could actually see them do this; just look at how many revisions their handhelds go through! Time will tell.

No, but $249 bundled with software is definitely a possibility. Nintendo should do a Mario Kart 8 bundle for $249 for the holidays.