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carlos710 said:

Try dealing with these kind of users/posts everyday in the forums, lol. sad thing indeed.

I'm glad I don't have to or else I would be banning about 50% of the userbase! Logic appears to have gone completely out of the window just lately.



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Puppyroach said:
pezus said:
 

The irony being that ioi's numbers add up to 2.9m.

Edit: And we're all forgetting that this includes 4 extra days in the US. MS said 3m+ as of Dec 31, while NPD Dec goes through Jan 4.

And what does the numbers for PS4 so far add up to? There can always be discreprencies in numbers, but they are som small when it comes to X1 and PS4 that they do not matter much (although, as far as I know, they are bigger for PS4, accordning to numbers we have so far, not sure if I am right though :)). So why is it so easy to accept Sonys numbers, but so hard to accepts MS´s?

I don't want to keep posting the same posts again and again so I advice people who want me to answer something to just read through the thread. PS4 has launched in 50+ countries so it's impossible to add them up PLUS they said 4.2m. Rounding up from 4.0 or 4.1m to 4.2m would be utterly unnecessary. Why not round up to 4.5m then? Lol



ioi said:
pezus said:

That adds up to 2.9m, enforcing my point.


Reinforcing your point?? Your point was that there were 500k units unaccounted for?

They claimed 3m as of December 31st, we estimate 2.91m as of the 28th so about 2.96m or so as of the 31st which rounds up to 3m. How on earth does this reinforce that Microsoft lied and that their figure is 500k higher than reality? You must be delusional.

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GribbleGrunger said:
I keep seeing 'tagged'. How do you do that?

You write the word "tagged", then the thread appears in your buddy on the left of the screen.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

carlos710 said:
ioi said:
pezus said:

That adds up to 2.9m, enforcing my point.


Reinforcing your point?? Your point was that there were 500k units unaccounted for?

They claimed 3m as of December 31st, we estimate 2.91m as of the 28th so about 2.96m or so as of the 31st which rounds up to 3m. How on earth does this reinforce that Microsoft lied and that their figure is 500k higher than reality? You must be delusional.


Try dealing with these kind of users/posts everyday in the forums, lol. sad thing indeed.

I'm not sure what happend but i like this posting ioi lol



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GribbleGrunger said:
I keep seeing 'tagged'. How do you do that?


you just write "tagged" as a post.

On topic:

Good 3DS  numbers

Abysmal WIi U numbers



DirtyP2002 said:

December NPD – Xbox One leads in December

 

 

December NPD Group figures released today revealed Xbox One was the number one selling console in the market in the U.S., selling 908,000 units in December. Additionally, Xbox 360 continued to see strong momentum with 643,000 units sold in December, putting it in the number three spot overall, and lead for last generation hardware. Together, Xbox One and Xbox 360 held 46 percent of the hardware market share in the U.S. and showed a 10 percent year over year growth from December 2012. 

“We’re grateful for the excitement and support of our fans – many purchasing their next Xbox console and many joining the Xbox family for the first time,” said Yusuf Mehdi, corporate vice president of marketing, strategy and business for Xbox. “Our journey is just starting, with more innovation, games and entertainment coming in 2014 and far beyond.”

December 2013 NPD highlights include:

  • Total combined retail spend on the Xbox platform (Xbox One and Xbox 360) in December reached $1.39 billion, 50 percent of the combined software, hardware and accessories spend in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, December 2013).
  • During the month of December, Xbox One held six of the top 10 spots on the new generation console game title list: “Battlefield 4,” “Forza Motorsport 5,” “Dead Rising 3,” “Ryse: Son of Rome,” “Madden NFL 25” and “Call of Duty: Ghosts” (Source: NPD Group, December 2013).  

Fans continue to show their excitement for new generation Xbox One games, with U.S. consumers purchasing an average of 2.9 games* per console since launch.

As Mehdi mentioned last
week in a thank you letter to fans, 2013 was an incredible year for gamers, entertainment fans, our industry and Xbox. You can read his full letter here.  

For more information on Xbox One and Xbox 360, please visit
Xbox Wire for the latest news.


well deserved



bananaking21 said:

sony fans right now 

Not really.. there are always one or two who are OTT but most of us are quite normal :) I personally believed Sony did have a chance of selling more, but only if they could ship enough... We know sony is going for more markets rather than fewer markets and shipping more, and this is obviously a result of that. As people have said, we dont know if thats a good idea or a bad idea, we will have to see. I think Sony believes locking down these other countries before MS even has a chance to launch is more important than matching box for box in the USA... but the validity of that will depend on how close the PS4 numbers in the USA are.

We know they still have sold more consoles in the USA than MS, and we know its over 600 odd k. We know the worldwide total gap increased based on both companies numbers... so I guess it depends on how important "winning" USA is.. or if Sony just equal MS... and win mostly everywhere else.

January is key imo, if Sony still does not have the capacity to outship to the USA, I think that would be a mistake and they could lose some momentum in the USA. It's certainly fun to see how both companies approach this though :)



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DirtyP2002 said:
io

i, I want you to show me EVERY Xbox One console out there and scan the barcode in!
You offer here a service and website for free. Therfore you have to provide perfection.


lol. they arent challenging brett more than they are challenging Ms



ioi said:
pezus said:

That adds up to 2.9m, enforcing my point.


Reinforcing your point?? Your point was that there were 500k units unaccounted for?

They claimed 3m as of December 31st, we estimate 2.91m as of the 28th so about 2.96m or so as of the 31st which rounds up to 3m. How on earth does this reinforce that Microsoft lied and that their figure is 500k higher than reality? You must be delusional.

Uhm, no that was not my point. I added up the known sales to less than 2.5m and asked if people could see over 500k coming from the rest of the countries. 2.8 or 2.9m has always been my belief

You just replied to me with a post adding the numbers up to 2.9m. Your number in the US, for example, is 70k higher than NPD has it at. That alone could put One down to 2.89 or 2.9m...