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Forums - Sony Discussion - Prediction: PS4 will sell 20,000,000 by Dec 31. 2014

Dark_Feanor on 22 October 2014
ethomaz said:

I know it is your opinion.

Reallity = PS4 have the best and most diverse library of the two consoles.

UI is the fastest and more easy to use I ever see in a console... most people find it is better than Xbone's UI... maybe the old 360 UI was better.

They never state holiday forecast lol.

PS4 will sell a lot this holiday... it is crazy to thing otherwise.

Last year they forecast 5mi from launch to March 2014, or that was what people were assuming.

You are blinded by the console war side of things. What is the novelty from PS4 this year? What can it do know that it couldn´t last year?

And I´m not even saying the XOne is much ahead in that figure. The only chance it can sell more it´s because it is present in more countries and is cheaper.

PS: I realy don´t undertand what you keep saying against the XOne UI. It is as fast as I think reseanable to be, I have no complains and since launch I´ve hearing less and less complains.



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ethomaz on 22 October 2014

Dark_Feanor said:

Last year they forecast 5mi from launch to March 2014, or that was what people were assuming.

You are blinded by the console war side of things. What is the novelty from PS4 this year? What can it do know that it couldn´t last year?

And I´m not even saying the XOne is much ahead in that figure. The only chance it can sell more it´s because it is present in more countries and is cheaper.

PS: I realy don´t undertand what you keep saying against the XOne UI. It is as fast as I think reseanable to be, I have no complains and since launch I´ve hearing less and less complains.

This forecast you already have since May... it is the forecast for the FY. 17m PS4 + PS3 from April 2014 to March 2015. BTW the forecast 5 million shipped tuned out 7 million sold.

I think you need to buy a PS4 maybe you will see why the Xbone UI is dated, slow and complicated... 360 was way way way ahead the Xbone's UI.

PS. Just to you don't waste your time I'm saying FUD... here a like of complains from last month: http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/2eh9yy/does_anyone_else_find_the_xbox_one_incredibly/ (google 2 seconds and sorry to choose a link with only Xbox fans).



DonFerrari on 22 October 2014
prinz_valium said:
FightingSmile said:

I seriously doubt PS4 will reach 20 million this holiday, another 8 millions consoles? I seriously doubt that, they have to sell 4 million consoles in both November and December (that's for a 50/50 split) to reach that goal, crazy talk

However in saying that, i believe around the 16 million mark is reasonable and within reach. SONY doesnt have any big IP release at all this couple of months (except LBP3 which i doubt will move many consoles) but the ps4 sells well regardless. If they had the Order releasing these holidays i would possibly say even 17-18 million but no more then that

Also i am going off the sales for the ps4 based on VGCHARTZ.....


1.5m october

2.5m november

4m december

would be a more accurate breakdown

 

no console is selling 50/50 november/december

not even the xbox 360 in the us only

 

 

still impossible to happen

1.5m october would be 25% wow increas from september (destiny and fifa 15 launch)

what excatly has ps4 to offer in october beside some decent selling multipalts and the worst launch fucked up exclusive game?

 

2.5m november would be the same figure like the best ever selling november for x360  and higher than any ps3 november

and only the last two weeks in november the ps4 has its exclusive game, thrid party co marketing games and bundles (lpb, farcry 4 and gtaV - all released on 18. november)

 

4m december would be the same as best selling ps3 and x360 december. only the wii ever managed to sell more than 4m in december

 

 

we talk about frist year sales for a 399 console here

if all this come ture, ps4 will have 200m lifetime

f ps4 reach 20M this year you are commended to do a ltf prediction thread for 200M even if based on unicorns farts (we both know both are quite close to 0 chance of happening but would you agree in doing?)





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Landguy on 22 October 2014
ethomaz said:

Dark_Feanor said:

Last year they forecast 5mi from launch to March 2014, or that was what people were assuming.

You are blinded by the console war side of things. What is the novelty from PS4 this year? What can it do know that it couldn´t last year?

And I´m not even saying the XOne is much ahead in that figure. The only chance it can sell more it´s because it is present in more countries and is cheaper.

PS: I realy don´t undertand what you keep saying against the XOne UI. It is as fast as I think reseanable to be, I have no complains and since launch I´ve hearing less and less complains.

This forecast you already have since May... it is the forecast for the FY. 17m PS4 + PS3 from April 2014 to March 2015. BTW the forecast 5 million shipped tuned out 7 million sold.

I think you need to buy a PS4 maybe you will see why the Xbone UI is dated, slow and complicated... 360 was way way way ahead the Xbone's UI.

PS. Just to you don't waste your time I'm saying FUD... here a like of complains from last month: http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/2eh9yy/does_anyone_else_find_the_xbox_one_incredibly/ (google 2 seconds and sorry to choose a link with only Xbox fans).

The only way someone thinks that the XB1's UI is dated and hard to use, is if they are still using Windows 7.  The XB1 is extremely easy to use.  But, I also think that the PS4 is easy to use.  I am not going to bother to pull up some random comments complaining, but I have seen people complain about Sony's UI.  There will always be complainers...



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Landguy on 22 October 2014

I would hope that the PS4 hits 20 million by years end. That would be a pretty neat thing for the whole industry.

THe one thing is, I don't think PS4 sales would detract from XB1's selling. So, if the PS4 sells that many, the XB1 will also do well. I have a feeling that both companies are going to make a number of great promotions to really push out the consoles.



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DonFerrari on 22 October 2014
Landguy said:
I would hope that the PS4 hits 20 million by years end. That would be a pretty neat thing for the whole industry.

THe one thing is, I don't think PS4 sales would detract from XB1's selling. So, if the PS4 sells that many, the XB1 will also do well. I have a feeling that both companies are going to make a number of great promotions to really push out the consoles.


20M is quite hard but not undoable... and from Tier2 and promos MS done that have raisen their sales it seems not much impact happened to Sony sales... so Yep X1 could have healthy sales with PS4 beasting around without much problem.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Drakrami on 22 October 2014

This is actually quite a good prediction at the time he predicted, at least for me I see his logic behind it. Because for a hot selling console to sell 16mil in a year is not very hard at all. Just refer to ps3/xbox360 sales.

We'll see... I'm pretty sure even if vgchartz mistracks ps4 sales, sony will announce on their own a milestone such as 20mil.



Dark_Feanor on 22 October 2014
ethomaz said:

This forecast you already have since May... it is the forecast for the FY. 17m PS4 + PS3 from April 2014 to March 2015. BTW the forecast 5 million shipped tuned out 7 million sold.

I think you need to buy a PS4 maybe you will see why the Xbone UI is dated, slow and complicated... 360 was way way way ahead the Xbone's UI.

PS. Just to you don't waste your time I'm saying FUD... here a like of complains from last month: http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/2eh9yy/does_anyone_else_find_the_xbox_one_incredibly/ (google 2 seconds and sorry to choose a link with only Xbox fans).


I won´t derail the thread with your pointless and cheap console war. You are still repeating CBOAT BS from last year. There is noting slughed or broken with the UI, games are improving and the gap is not getting wider. 

You keep ignoring my questions, and again, it´s not a console X vs Y. I just pointed that there is no novelty for the PS4 this season.

Just tell me what the PS4 can do now that it couldn´t one year ago. What are the new features? New apps? New AAA titles? That was my point.



DonFerrari on 22 October 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
ethomaz said:

This forecast you already have since May... it is the forecast for the FY. 17m PS4 + PS3 from April 2014 to March 2015. BTW the forecast 5 million shipped tuned out 7 million sold.

I think you need to buy a PS4 maybe you will see why the Xbone UI is dated, slow and complicated... 360 was way way way ahead the Xbone's UI.

PS. Just to you don't waste your time I'm saying FUD... here a like of complains from last month: http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/2eh9yy/does_anyone_else_find_the_xbox_one_incredibly/ (google 2 seconds and sorry to choose a link with only Xbox fans).


I won´t derail the thread with your pointless and cheap console war. You are still repeating CBOAT BS from last year. There is noting slughed or broken with the UI, games are improving and the gap is not getting wider. 

You keep ignoring my questions, and again, it´s not a console X vs Y. I just pointed that there is no novelty for the PS4 this season.

Just tell me what the PS4 can do now that it couldn´t one year ago. What are the new features? New apps? New AAA titles? That was my point.


And you keep spouting no sense... what was your prediction for X1 and PS4 sales again?

It seems PS4 don't need anything special right now to sell better... And if you don't know the AAA is mainly because you don't like the system not because they don't exist.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Dark_Feanor on 22 October 2014
DonFerrari said:

And you keep spouting no sense... what was your prediction for X1 and PS4 sales again?

It seems PS4 don't need anything special right now to sell better... And if you don't know the AAA is mainly because you don't like the system not because they don't exist.


My predictions? I don´t know, and I don´t care.

It was probably 15mi. But now I would say 17-18mi.

Tablets and smartphones will decuplicate those numbers though. Consoles need further change and evolution if they hope to save another year of growth.