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Machiavellian said:
Normchacho said:

I love how people saying that MS version is better aren't even talking about the big "selling point" feature of the one but instead are just talking about apps that have been around since the 360. Those apps and the new HDMI in feature actually negate each other right? One is supposed to let you replace your cable while one lets you watch it through your Xbox...

We know that Sony have a deal with Viacom already (VH1, MTV, CC, Nick, TV land, BET, CMT, Spike, etc.) and announced the other day as the CES that they have good relationships with other content providers. The also announced that testing had begun on the service and that it will launch sometime this year in the United States.

You also don't need a PS3 or PS4 to use the service as it is designed to work on any internet connected Sony device so even a Sony smart TV would work. Which is pretty amazing if you ask me. Having your cable box built into your TV without having any sort of box connected to it.

Having a deal with Viacom and other content providers just mean they have made deals just like any of the other cable companies.  Lets say you have Time Warner and using the the App within the 360 for your content.  If sony comes out with their IPTV that just have the same stuff you get on your TWC, how is that a better solution.  

@ Bolded: Using TWC again, it already have an app that you can download and get all of their service including live TV from Apple devices Android devices Roku and Samsung Smart TV.  A few of the bigger cable companies do the same thing and their stuff are supported on more than just Sony devices.  In other words, if you subscribe to any of the big cable services like TWC, Comcast, Verizon etc, you are not tied to any device or Smart TV since they support them all.  There is nothing really new that Sony is doing or unique from their competition, its just another service. At least until we get more detail.

But it does allow you to have the content from several providers in one service rather than seperate apps for say nbc or fox or what have you. It also allows you to watch live tv, on deman programing, and even use a DVR. Sure some cable providers have apps that allow you to watch tv on your other devices but MS doesn't and a good number of the tv apps on the 360 are missing from the Xbox One. I don't see why people keep talking about the 360? The MS plan for tv on the Xbox One involes the HDMI in which does little more than allow you to watch tv without having to change the input on your tv.

When comparing Sony's tv plans to MS tv plans it's pretty obvious which its pretty obvious that the Sony plan is much more ambitious and as long as they don't screw anything up could be very sucessful.



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Normchacho said:
Machiavellian said:
Normchacho said:

I love how people saying that MS version is better aren't even talking about the big "selling point" feature of the one but instead are just talking about apps that have been around since the 360. Those apps and the new HDMI in feature actually negate each other right? One is supposed to let you replace your cable while one lets you watch it through your Xbox...

We know that Sony have a deal with Viacom already (VH1, MTV, CC, Nick, TV land, BET, CMT, Spike, etc.) and announced the other day as the CES that they have good relationships with other content providers. The also announced that testing had begun on the service and that it will launch sometime this year in the United States.

You also don't need a PS3 or PS4 to use the service as it is designed to work on any internet connected Sony device so even a Sony smart TV would work. Which is pretty amazing if you ask me. Having your cable box built into your TV without having any sort of box connected to it.

Having a deal with Viacom and other content providers just mean they have made deals just like any of the other cable companies.  Lets say you have Time Warner and using the the App within the 360 for your content.  If sony comes out with their IPTV that just have the same stuff you get on your TWC, how is that a better solution.  

@ Bolded: Using TWC again, it already have an app that you can download and get all of their service including live TV from Apple devices Android devices Roku and Samsung Smart TV.  A few of the bigger cable companies do the same thing and their stuff are supported on more than just Sony devices.  In other words, if you subscribe to any of the big cable services like TWC, Comcast, Verizon etc, you are not tied to any device or Smart TV since they support them all.  There is nothing really new that Sony is doing or unique from their competition, its just another service. At least until we get more detail.

But it does allow you to have the content from several providers in one service rather than seperate apps for say nbc or fox or what have you. It also allows you to watch live tv, on deman programing, and even use a DVR. Sure some cable providers have apps that allow you to watch tv on your other devices but MS doesn't and a good number of the tv apps on the 360 are missing from the Xbox One. I don't see why people keep talking about the 360? The MS plan for tv on the Xbox One involes the HDMI in which does little more than allow you to watch tv without having to change the input on your tv.

When comparing Sony's tv plans to MS tv plans it's pretty obvious which its pretty obvious that the Sony plan is much more ambitious and as long as they don't screw anything up could be very sucessful.


MS announced months ago that TV streaming was coming to X1. I'm sure they are in the process at this moment signing agreements with various companies to provide service. The cable box hookup was just part of their plan from the beginning. Just because they dont put a new story about the progress of their streaming TV service does not mean its not happening. They already signed a huge NFL deal that cost them 500 million. Sony is responding to them as they have done every step of the way. They wait, watch what MS is doing then attempt to do it better. MS would be smart not to make any announcments at the moment because Sony has out smarted them at every turn this gen. You really think MS just gonna hand over ther North American market to Sony? Sony needed a wake up call last gen and they got it. They are in a fight for survival this gen. Microsoft got too lazy and needed a wake up call this gen and they got it. MS already showed their willingness to fight back. X1 is too important to them. They have vast resources and platform to do it with. They badged themselves as an entertainment console rather then just a gaming console and I have little doubt in my mind when all the dust settles MS will dominate this gen when it comes to other entertainment then gaming like it did last gen. For me, the first solution thats cheaper then cable where I can dump my FIOS cable im gonna run too regardless if its on my X1 or my PS4. 

This gen is gonna be awesome! We have two healthy consoles PS4 and X1 that are fighting hard to earn your business. I can't wait to see the landscape a year from now. I love all three, (well ok I dont play my Wii U much except for Netflix and Amazon Prime) both my PS4 (Playing Assassins Creed) and X1 (Playing Forza 5, Ryse and Dead Rising 3) and looking forward to see what they will have to offer to entertain me beyond just gaming!

John



DonFerrari said:
Person open a thread to discuss which solution is better to conclude he needs more info on one to evaluTe and need to see the other take-off to see if it work. Genius as most journalists and analysts nowadays.

If you are talking about me, I actually stated which stragety I believe is best.  I stated that MS solution sees to be better because its not limited to what they can accomplish being an IPTV provider.  Instead they are partnering with cable and satalite companies to provide their serice to their console.  The scope of the two stragety are different.  MS does not require customers to change what they are using but instead, they are trying to enhance the experience.  Sony solution would be to replace what you have which means their solution has to be either superior to the customer or have something to make the customer switch.  Sony solution has stiff compettion in that space while MS does not.

As a consumer, I want to see what Sony offer is as it could be something I might want but thats totaly separate from Sony stragety.  I have already invested into MS stragety because I cut my cable and now use Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime and Crunchyroll streaming services but there are a few cable channels that I miss.



Obviously the one with the best and most content and that is and will be Sony. The one needs a cable box and although Microsoft is receiving tv services via aps, the same is for Sony backed up with exclusive deals and their own huge library.



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Normchacho said:

But it does allow you to have the content from several providers in one service rather than seperate apps for say nbc or fox or what have you. It also allows you to watch live tv, on deman programing, and even use a DVR. Sure some cable providers have apps that allow you to watch tv on your other devices but MS doesn't and a good number of the tv apps on the 360 are missing from the Xbox One. I don't see why people keep talking about the 360? The MS plan for tv on the Xbox One involes the HDMI in which does little more than allow you to watch tv without having to change the input on your tv.

When comparing Sony's tv plans to MS tv plans it's pretty obvious which its pretty obvious that the Sony plan is much more ambitious and as long as they don't screw anything up could be very sucessful.

@ Bolded: The TWC, Verizon Xfinity, Dish and DirectTV App do all of what you just mentioned without having to have a separate app for individual content providers like HBO, NBC etc.  What Sony is providing is no different from what is already provided by cable and Satellite providers now.

MS doesn't have to have an IPTV service because they will support or now support other services.  MS can distribute their content however they want without trying to compete in a very competitive space.  If Sony service does not have what I am looking for, then it cannot replace my existing setup nor will the PS3 or PS4 allow me to use my existing setup without having a cable box.  The reason I bring the 360 in the conversation is because those same Apps will be coming to the X1.  The partnerships MS has made with the cable companies did not disappear.  Since the X1 is a new device creating the Apps take some time.

@ 2nd Bolded:  This is incorrect.  The HDMI in is one part of a much bigger stragety.  Your vision is way to narrow.  MS stragety is to be the central box that controls delivery of all content within your living room.  The HDMI is a solution to control cable and other media that do not have an App within its eco system.

Sony plan isn't more ambitious its more risky.  Did you know that MS sold their IPTV to Mediaroom to Ericsson.  MS had a IPTV solution longer than Sony has been in the console business.  After fighting for media and licensing agreements etc, they decided to sell the business.



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elazz said:
Obviously the one with the best and most content and that is and will be Sony. The one needs a cable box and although Microsoft is receiving tv services via aps, the same is for Sony backed up with exclusive deals and their own huge library.

Why do you believe Sony will have the best and most content?  I am asking this question because people as yourself tend to believe this but I am not sure why.  Sony does not support at this time any cable TV apps.  Sony content is sold to the same cable companies and streaming services now.  Do people think Sony will stop doing this because that is huge revenue for the company.  At best, I can only see Sony matching content.



ItNetPro said:
Normchacho said:
Machiavellian said:
Normchacho said:

Having a deal with Viacom and other content providers just mean they have made deals just like any of the other cable companies.  Lets say you have Time Warner and using the the App within the 360 for your content.  If sony comes out with their IPTV that just have the same stuff you get on your TWC, how is that a better solution.  

@ Bolded: Using TWC again, it already have an app that you can download and get all of their service including live TV from Apple devices Android devices Roku and Samsung Smart TV.  A few of the bigger cable companies do the same thing and their stuff are supported on more than just Sony devices.  In other words, if you subscribe to any of the big cable services like TWC, Comcast, Verizon etc, you are not tied to any device or Smart TV since they support them all.  There is nothing really new that Sony is doing or unique from their competition, its just another service. At least until we get more detail.

But it does allow you to have the content from several providers in one service rather than seperate apps for say nbc or fox or what have you. It also allows you to watch live tv, on deman programing, and even use a DVR. Sure some cable providers have apps that allow you to watch tv on your other devices but MS doesn't and a good number of the tv apps on the 360 are missing from the Xbox One. I don't see why people keep talking about the 360? The MS plan for tv on the Xbox One involes the HDMI in which does little more than allow you to watch tv without having to change the input on your tv.

When comparing Sony's tv plans to MS tv plans it's pretty obvious which its pretty obvious that the Sony plan is much more ambitious and as long as they don't screw anything up could be very sucessful.


MS announced months ago that TV streaming was coming to X1. I'm sure they are in the process at this moment signing agreements with various companies to provide service. The cable box hookup was just part of their plan from the beginning. Just because they dont put a new story about the progress of their streaming TV service does not mean its not happening. They already signed a huge NFL deal that cost them 500 million. Sony is responding to them as they have done every step of the way. They wait, watch what MS is doing then attempt to do it better. MS would be smart not to make any announcments at the moment because Sony has out smarted them at every turn this gen. You really think MS just gonna hand over ther North American market to Sony? Sony needed a wake up call last gen and they got it. They are in a fight for survival this gen. Microsoft got too lazy and needed a wake up call this gen and they got it. MS already showed their willingness to fight back. X1 is too important to them. They have vast resources and platform to do it with. They badged themselves as an entertainment console rather then just a gaming console and I have little doubt in my mind when all the dust settles MS will dominate this gen when it comes to other entertainment then gaming like it did last gen. For me, the first solution thats cheaper then cable where I can dump my FIOS cable im gonna run too regardless if its on my X1 or my PS4. 

This gen is gonna be awesome! We have two healthy consoles PS4 and X1 that are fighting hard to earn your business. I can't wait to see the landscape a year from now. I love all three, (well ok I dont play my Wii U much except for Netflix and Amazon Prime) both my PS4 (Playing Assassins Creed) and X1 (Playing Forza 5, Ryse and Dead Rising 3) and looking forward to see what they will have to offer to entertain me beyond just gaming!

John


Where did MS say that they were launching at TV streaming service for the Xbox One? Other than the Fios app I can't find anything about them doing there own service. Microsoft is devoted to the idea of plugging your cable box into the back of your One so why would they almost right out of the gate make it redundant?

We've also known that Sony was planning a TV streaming service for months so I don't see how they copied MS when MS themselves don't claim to be workng on a similar service. If anything MS have been responding to what Sony has been doing so far this gen to try and keep from getting crushed. The NFL deal is great but that's not the same as a deal with a network or production company.

I agree this gen will be great though, the consoles we have out now are the best we've ever seen and will get better with time.



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Machiavellian said:
elazz said:
Obviously the one with the best and most content and that is and will be Sony. The one needs a cable box and although Microsoft is receiving tv services via aps, the same is for Sony backed up with exclusive deals and their own huge library.

Why do you believe Sony will have the best and most content?  I am asking this question because people as yourself tend to believe this but I am not sure why.  Sony does not support at this time any cable TV apps.  Sony content is sold to the same cable companies and streaming services now.  Do people think Sony will stop doing this because that is huge revenue for the company.  At best, I can only see Sony matching content.


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Where is ESPN for Playstation?



WiiU. Insanely easy to set up TV integration, great TV guide, and the Gamepad works as a great universal remote. WiiU FTW!



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016