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Will Sony be able to do it in the 8th gen? A look at what each has sold so far. PS3 and 360 with estimated 7th gen final sales included.

 

Nintendo 

Nes: 69 million

Snes: 49 million

N64: 32 million

Gcn: 21 million

Wii: 102 million

 Total: 268 Million

 

 Microsoft

 Xbox: 24 million

360: 88 million, 

Total: 112 Million

 

And now Sony

Ps1: 104 Million

Ps2: 157 Million

Ps3: 93 Million 

Total: 354 Million

 

Sony has/projected 354 million for 3 consoles  vs  ms and Nintendos combined 380 million over 7 consoles. A defecit of approximately 26 million consoles. 8th gen so far puts sony back another combined 8 million. That means the PS4 will have to outsell xbone and wii u combined by 26 million for the 8th gen. Possible?

edit: ms and nintendo totals.

Approx 354m vs 380m excluding 8th gen totals thus far. 

 

a 90 to 40/25 win for the 8th gen would be put them about even all together. 

 

 



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COLD_COBRA_ said:

Will Sony be able to do it in the 8th gen? A look at what each has sold so far. PS3 and 360 with estimated 7th gen final sales included.

 

Nintendo 

Nes: 69 million

Snes: 49 million

N64: 32 million

Gcn: 21 million

Wii: 102 million

 Total: 268 Million

 

 Microsoft

 Xbox: 24 million

360: 92 million, final estimate

 

Total: 116 Million

 

And now Sony

 

Ps1: 104 Million

Ps2: 161 Million

Ps3: 95 Million (Conservative)

Total: 360 Million

 

Sony has 360 million for 3 consoles  vs  ms and Nintendos combined 368 million over 7 consoles. A defecit of approximately 8 million consoles. 8th gen so far puts sony back another combined 8 million. That means the PS4 will have to outsell xbone and wii u combined by 16 million for the 8th gen. Possible?

 

 

 

Yes it is very possible and will most likely happen. ( I really do think the Wii U won't do well sale wise, however I will still love the games for it ) and that the gap between xbox and ps4 will be bigger enough in Europe and Japan to make that remainder up.



 

Miguel_Zorro said:
268 + 116 = 384.


and I just noticed he did the math wrong... Dooh! Eh, Maybe not after all. 



 

Acevil said:
Miguel_Zorro said:
268 + 116 = 384.


and I just noticed he did the math wrong... Dooh! Eh, Maybe not after all. 


yep I did, fixed that. Deficit of 32 million not 16 million.



Probably not gonna happen. It would need a market share of over 50% this gen.
Their lead is not increasing but decreasing over time. Look at the end of 6th gen. Sony comfortably outsold both together by 70 million. At the end of gen 7 it lost 100 million.



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COLD_COBRA_ said:
Acevil said:
Miguel_Zorro said:
268 + 116 = 384.


and I just noticed he did the math wrong... Dooh! Eh, Maybe not after all. 


yep I did, fixed that. Deficit of 32 million not 16 million.

32 Million might be harder, when I think that Nintendo could be anywhere between 25-40 million and Xbox One being anywhere between 40-80 Million. Given I am pulling numbers out of my ass, so who knows. 



 

Consoles? Sometime in the furture if the whole Sony doesn't go bankrupt. Consoles and handhelds? Never.



One more week where PS4 has outsold xbone and wii u combined, many more to come.



Well in the last quarter Sony shipped 7.8m PS4+PS3, MS shipped almost that many XBO+X360 (7.4m). But nintendo also shipped 2m WII U's so Sony lost ground (-1.6 m).

you are overestimating PS3 vs 360 for one. as the corporate numbers show 360 is currently selling as well as PS3 if not a tiny bit better, but it's basically a tie. So a 3 million final edge for PS3 is unlikely since 360 has currently outsold PS3 worldwide according to Sony/MS (the 80 million announcements where Sony was 3 weeks behind, added with current sales knowledge, suggest 360 maintains a slim lead).

Basically to admit MS sold almost as many home consoles as Sony in the last quarter of 2013, which they did, you either have to admit PS4 isn't beating XO by that much, or 360 is beating PS3 handily.

Now, PS4 will gain more on XBO I dont dispute that, because PS4 is sold out while XBO is not. Still, the numbers we have are the numbers we have.

Now can it happen? Well it could, but I doubt it will. I'd sell Wii U way short, I dont think it will even hit 20m. It's basically dead imo, and Nintendo has admitted they cant cut the price which is the only thing that would give it a death rattle. Hell it may not top 10m the way it's going.

But I bet XO will keep it close or even beat PS4 in the long run, preventing this scenario. All MS needs is one price cut to be back in the game against PS4.

 

Also I dont doubt it but PS2 finished up at 161m? I thought it was more like 150m.

 

Edit: well it appears one official figure was 153m as of early 2011, so, yeah 161 is reasonable. I suppose since they did that combine with PS3 thing we cant exactly know.



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