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PS4 has already outdone Wii's launch holiday by almost 500k (with 1.5 weeks to go)

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It will plummet like the Wii U.



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softcoregamer82 said:
Turkish said:
softcoregamer82 said:
Turkish said:
PS4 is the next PS2. Its gonna dominate, world will color blue once more.
pezus said:
johnsobas said:
PS4 doesn't have the same mania that wii had. This will calm down soon, and it may even slow down a lot. PS4 is gonna have to prove itself with must have games before we see any kind of sustained huge sales. This will probably happen eventually and sales will pick up a lot late next year or the year after.

Based on what? It's selling out instantly everywhere AND has sold more than Wii did. Did you miss the mania around the launch in Europe? 

Sales don't need to pick up. They're already epically high.

I hope you guys get paid to be Sony's PR reps and aren't just doing this for free.



What the hell are you talking about?

I thought it was clear.  You and pezus are so pro-Sony and you make outlandish predictions in favor of Sony ("PS4 is totally the next PS2 based on about one month's sales, heck it may sell one BILLION units!") that I think Sony should pay you to post.

And apparently, if it's brought up, you don't get it and you get vulgar about it.  No need to swear!


The problem lies not with me, it lies with you thinking its crazy for PS4 to be the next PS2 of its generation, not saying its gonna sell 150 million units, just be the dominant console. There is nothing outlandish about that prediction. Cut with the hyperbole, no one is claiming its gonna sell a billion consoles, we arent on anybody's payroll.



Turkish said:
softcoregamer82 said:

I thought it was clear.  You and pezus are so pro-Sony and you make outlandish predictions in favor of Sony ("PS4 is totally the next PS2 based on about one month's sales, heck it may sell one BILLION units!") that I think Sony should pay you to post.

And apparently, if it's brought up, you don't get it and you get vulgar about it.  No need to swear!


The problem lies not with me, it lies with you thinking its crazy for PS4 to be the next PS2 of its generation, not saying its gonna sell 150 million units, just be the dominant console. There is nothing outlandish about that prediction. Cut with the hyperbole, no one is claiming its gonna sell a billion consoles, we arent on anybody's payroll.

pezus/turkish jobless confirmed. Using grandma's cough syrup fund to get PS4s.



I think it'll slow down with the pace of the Wii in a few months - the Wii's xmas sales were probably supply constrained to that number (albeit so are PS4's I guess). But PS4 got more units out in that space of time, as Sony could pump them out faster I guess. Ps4 will continue to sell strong but Wii sales I doubt, mainly because I think the Xbox One is a very worthy competitor who will steal enough marketshare to prevent that.

HOWEVER. I do think the Ps4 is going to last much, much longer then the Wii did. I mean the Ps3 is still pushing good numbers 7 years on while the Wii has begun to vanish, I don't expect the same fate for the PS4. Predicting things in 2021 (happy nye!) probably isn't the wisest move though lol.



As many repeat every time WiiU outsells something it is because of supply, Wii sold out too quickly and wasn't restocked while PS4 is available for purchase, the numbers do seem way off though for some reason



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g911turbo said:
hunter_alien said:
The PS4 will not have the same momentum as the Wii had, but it will have far better legs. I see no reason why it should not outsell the Wii in the longrun


I agree with this possibility, look at the PS3 for goodness sake.  BUT, I think the defining factor will be technology, and where we are at in 5 years (meaning when does the PS5 generation release).  I don't think the world wants another gen this long.  But rather, shorter generations with cheaper consoles entry prices (400 or less)


True, but 5 years/generation is given. 4 is not viable no matter how we look at it. Neither for the hardware manufacturer or 3rd party developers.

In 5 years I could see the PS4 selling 80-90 million units and maybe 15-20 more during the 9-th generation.



johnsobas said:
pezus said:
johnsobas said:
PS4 doesn't have the same mania that wii had. This will calm down soon, and it may even slow down a lot. PS4 is gonna have to prove itself with must have games before we see any kind of sustained huge sales. This will probably happen eventually and sales will pick up a lot late next year or the year after.

Based on what? It's selling out instantly everywhere AND has sold more than Wii did. Did you miss the mania around the launch in Europe? 

Sales don't need to pick up. They're already epically high.

Do I really need to explain this?  Everyone and their grandma wanted a wii, it was based on wii sports and the wiimote.  It was based on people's experiences with playing the wii and word of mouth.  It was new and exciting, and everyone wanted it, it was sold out for nearly 2 years in many places only meeting demand for a short time.  PS4 doesn't have that, it's gonna be more of a slower burn, will probably last quite a bit longer.

That's not true. Nintendo only had the casuals and Nintendo fans at the beginning, while PS4 will get a part of the casuals, most of the hardcore and all the Sony fans.

You say "PS4 doesn't have that" but I say "look for it in stores and say that again"



JayWood2010 said:

Congrats to PS4 for doing so well since i havent been able to say that over the last two updates :) (also congrats to XBO and WiiU)

Now i do want to move on to the threads ive viewed in the last few days where there has been a little bit of e-penis slinging that i could only explain as excessive sword fighting ;)

I know very few people is going to change because of this post but I do believe if you ask most people they will say the PS4 is going to win the Plastic box battle.

Now if you ask them which one they enjoy the most that will be a different answer. See some people like PS4, some like XBO, some like WiiU, and some dont give a shit. What matters is if youre enjoying your console(s). And these numbers while are cool is not going to change that fun factor for you. All the gloating is kind of repetitive and i think Nintendo and Xbox fans get it. PS4 is going to sell amazing yeah. now play it and enjoy it rather than gloating every chance you get.  

Sorry if you think this post is only aimed at you as it isnt, this is more aimed at all of VGC so dont worry.  You know i like you pezus :)

This thread isn't about the consoles' quality, obviously. It's a simple sales thread on a sales forum. PS4 vs. Wii is really interesting, I'm sure many agree.



FATALITY said:
g911turbo said:
hunter_alien said:
The PS4 will not have the same momentum as the Wii had, but it will have far better legs. I see no reason why it should not outsell the Wii in the longrun


I agree with this possibility, look at the PS3 for goodness sake.  BUT, I think the defining factor will be technology, and where we are at in 5 years (meaning when does the PS5 generation release).  I don't think the world wants another gen this long.  But rather, shorter generations with cheaper consoles entry prices (400 or less)

lol

$599,99 ps3 vs 249,99 wii

lets wait and see

I think you misunderstood me.  I was saying the the PS4 WILL have good legs, LIKE THE PS3 which came on strong and is STILL going strong.   As for the entry price of the PS3, it is WHY it had a slow start, also to my point of how people want their consoles cheaper to start.  So I think you misunderstood my post.



DélioPT said:
Madword said:
DélioPT said:
Wii`s success was largely unexpected while PS4`s isn`t.
Sony anticipated the demand and prepared itself for it, Nintendo didn`t - for a long time.

Still not convinced that the PS4 can do as well as the wii though, that product was definately a magnet... just dragged everyone in. I had never purchased a nintendo product until the Wii, and I got it day 1. Though I think the Ps4 is riding the wave of such a long cycle this time, so I think it will do well, but would expect sales to start going below the wii easily by april. Though I expect the Ps4 to have much longer legs (and support) than the wii and will pass 100m.

I think the biggest reason for both PS4 and XB1 record sales is, as you said: riding on the backs of a very lengthy cycle.
Will it do Wii numbers? At first, no. Will it surpass it? It has that potential. The question is how far this new generation will last. Honestly i don`t see it lasting more than 5 years (as to remain competitive with other gaming devices).
So, in that case, PS4 will fight to reach those numbers.
More, MS won`t just sit and let PS4 have it`s way. And Wii U will surely gain momentum in 2014 and keep it until the end of the generation.

In the days of PS1 and PS2, Sony basically had no serious competition except for the N64 and even then, it wasn`t a big competitor. Sony doesn`t have that mindshare it used to have.

That's exactly what I was saying in my post, so agreed.  PS4 total sales depends on PS5 (and others).