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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 starts dominating - outsells WiiU and X1 combined (Read OP, please)

pezus said:
JohnMeyers said:
People here are saying that there is no sense in comparing 3DS sales to PS4 sales, since they do not share the same market. Well, that is true, but there is still cause for the comparison. Why? Well Nintendo gets a LOT of revenue from the 3DS, and they can then channel that to the Wii U. The popularity of the 3DS gets them more consumers for the Wii U. They are all related. Saying they are not is ridiculous and frankly is something I expect from fanboys.
And before you say that Sony and MS can do the same with their tablets, laptops etc. it is not the same, Sony and MS gaming branch are separate from other parts of the company. If they are making a loss then they might decide to do without the gaming branch.

AGAIN. The reason they can.not.be.compared is that PS4 is heavily supply constrained due to just launching weeks ago. By all means compare the two next holiday when Sony will have increased PS4 production to appropriate levels.

They simply can't produce 1m+ in a week.

That post wasn't directed towards you.

By all means compare the sales of PS4 and 3DS. Just don't say that 3DS is irrelevant compared to the PS4.



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And iPhone5 is destroying 3DS in sales... There I can be silly as some fans.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

pezus said:
Jumpin said:
pezus said:

Europe is looking like utter decimation by the PS4. 


I think you mean "domination" and not decimation.

No, I mean decimation. PS4 will destroy Europe.


Decimation means 1 in 10.... Just saying....

Great PS4 numbers and still yet to launch in Japan. This is where Xbone will struggle, as Microsoft has next to nil presence in Japan. I've seen enough already to suggest that PS4 will have sold almost double Xbone by this time next year



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duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Looks like the PS2 generation almost



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Prediction: Switch will sell better than Wii U Lifetime Sales by Jan 1st 2018

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prayformojo said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said

Also, nothing will come close? 3ds says hi!


He was talking about home consoles. Consoles and handhelds don't compete with one another.


Of course they compete with each other. Everything competes with each other. If you spend money on one item, you have less available for another item. Plus you start buying into one ecosystem and that might lead to other purchases within the same ecosystem.

Certainly if someone said they would ponder a PS Vita because they have a PS3 and PS+ and they would have free games for it each month that would make total sense to everyone. It would also make sense that they would now have fewer dollars available to buy a WiiU because of the amount of money they have invested in PS hardware and software.

The reverse is true as well.



pezus said:
PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
290,244 264,100 N/A 656,655
130,323 59,055 114,516 319,860
225,748 64,099 N/A 307,366

WiiU + X1 = 627k

Europe is looking like utter decimation by the PS4. Nothing will come close there. NA is more of a battle right now. Japan could also be a battle due to WiiU sales improving. 


Looks like my predictions are coming true already although it will take a bit more time for dust to settle, at least until summer 2014 when both consoles are released in most major regions.

see this original thread : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=167458&page=1

Quote :

2) Regional Analysis  (including only MS and Sony Consoles)

 

 a) Japan :  X360 has about 14 % of the Market share vs PS3's 86%, despite all those advantages. The next-gen spells nothing but doom in Japan for XB1, and I am estimating...

XB1 :  Less than 10%

PS4 : More than 90%

 

b) Europe :  The Market Shares are currently around 43% to 57%. This will take a major hit in PS4's favor:

XB1 :  Around 15-25 %

PS4 :  Around 75-85%

 

c) North America :  The Market Shares are currently around 62% to 38%. This will also take a major hit in PS4's favor but Xbox is almost as strong of a brand as PS in US, with a well established fan base. Although PS4 will eventually win a higher share, neither may be dominant.

XB1 :  Around 35-45%

PS4 :  Around 55-65%

 

d) Global Market Share: Current Market Share : 50%-50% But given the facts and estimates above, XB1 will take a major hit.

XB1 :  Around 24-33%

PS4 :  Around 67-76%



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Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

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DevilRising said:
I do hope you don't seriously think that level of weekly sales if going to maintain for long past the holidays.

Agreed, there's no way in hell the Wii U will continue to sell even half as well as the PS4 once January begins.



DonFerrari said:
And iPhone5 is destroying 3DS in sales... There I can be silly as some fans.

 

Yes it is, unfortunately. But it's not related, since apple isn't really in the gaming industry.



pezus said:
PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
290,244 264,100 N/A 656,655
130,323 59,055 114,516 319,860
225,748 64,099 N/A 307,366

WiiU + X1 = 627k

Europe is looking like utter decimation by the PS4. Nothing will come close there. NA is more of a battle right now. Japan could also be a battle due to WiiU sales improving. 

I think as far as the last two generations are concerned, the only company dominating anything is Nintendo,1q2 and I am not even a fanboy. The combined sales of the DS, 3DS, Wii, and Wii U are just incredible and anyone doubting whether or not Nintendo will remain  "in the game" for this generation is quite simply sorely mistaken.



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