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d21lewis said:
I don't know. For the most part, everybody I know downloads what they want to see. There was a time when we cared about bonus features and stuff but I think that time is quickly passing. Physical media is dying. I used to only buy DC Comics movies on Blu Ray but I don't even do that anymore.

I think the interest in bonus features will stay the same. It has been there with Laserdisc box set editions, gone mainstream with dvd and blu-ray, and will probably stay with disc versions. I guess it will be a VHS next to Laserdisc situation again in the future. HD bare bones streaming for the masses, 4K blu-ray + blu-ray + digital copy with extras for the collector. Apart from lossless sound and sometimes the extended edition, I doubt more features will make it to streaming. (Maybe some studio will try bonus features as micro transactions...)

I guess more people watched the bonus features because they were on the disc anyway, but I doubt the amount of people checking the extras before buying has changed much. Physical movie media won't die, it will become a niche market. Hopefully at CD level and not all the way down to vinyl records level. (which also still gets new releases)



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Something funny to share.

A friend with a ps3 has this collection of "blue ray movies".

I personally don't even buy dvd's, I streamline everything I watch, but I recently got a xbox one and for the hex of it I wanted to try a blue ray movie out.

SO I went over to his apartment and as I went through his collection, I noticed it was a bunch of DVD disk. I asked "aren't these DVD's" he said no and without warning began his demonstration. he loaded up avatar in his ps3 and started pointing at shit like the water and saying, "see how clear that is? DVD;s can't do that.

I took the avatar disc home with the intent on teasing it in my 360. It did not work, I then put it in the xbox one and then it worked.

So I guess bootleggers are burning blu ray coding on DVD disc (it wasn't even a double lear). I won't bother telling him his "blu ray" collection is no better than a DVD collection, his fan blindness is too strong to hear that.

So......blu ray fans can't even tell the difference between the products, I think I will remain a non supporter of the physical disc market.



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Kind of off topic, but does anyone offer a service where you can pay to download blu ray quality movies and store them on a media player? I would totally pay for that over risking shit quality and viruses on torrent sites. I really can't be bothered with discs anymore.



Locknuts said:
Kind of off topic, but does anyone offer a service where you can pay to download blu ray quality movies and store them on a media player? I would totally pay for that over risking shit quality and viruses on torrent sites. I really can't be bothered with discs anymore.

get a mac, handles torrents like a champ. I've never had trouble, I know windows based computers will explode in no time though.



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^Yes that's me ripping it up in the GIF. :)

Locknuts said:
Kind of off topic, but does anyone offer a service where you can pay to download blu ray quality movies and store them on a media player? I would totally pay for that over risking shit quality and viruses on torrent sites. I really can't be bothered with discs anymore.

Yes Kaleidoscope offers full quality blu-ray downloads, for example Man of Steel, $16.99 for a 78Gb download https://store.kaleidescape.com/movies/details/19027960

The catch: You need their hardware to download it to.
http://www.kaleidescape.com/products/cinema-one/

You can also buy a disc vault from them, allowing you to store upto 320 blu-ray discs and copy to a server. The catch: The discs remain in the vault literally...
http://www.kaleidescape.com/products/premiere/disc-vaults/dv700/



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There is no thing as a bluray adoption rate it is simply one more option for consumers. It will certainly never be what dvd was in terms of dominance and it will without question be a very small piece of the media market with streaming being the true successor to dvd.



Blu-Ray may be catching DVD but I still got the The Hobbit Extended Edition on DVD because it retains the packaging from the LOTR set.



SvennoJ said:
Locknuts said:
Kind of off topic, but does anyone offer a service where you can pay to download blu ray quality movies and store them on a media player? I would totally pay for that over risking shit quality and viruses on torrent sites. I really can't be bothered with discs anymore.

Yes Kaleidoscope offers full quality blu-ray downloads, for example Man of Steel, $16.99 for a 78Gb download https://store.kaleidescape.com/movies/details/19027960

The catch: You need their hardware to download it to.
http://www.kaleidescape.com/products/cinema-one/

You can also buy a disc vault from them, allowing you to store upto 320 blu-ray discs and copy to a server. The catch: The discs remain in the vault literally...
http://www.kaleidescape.com/products/premiere/disc-vaults/dv700/

Thanks, that's pretty close to what I'm after. Won't be buying any new hardware for the privelage though.



Yes it will contribute, particularly in USA.



SvennoJ said:
Munkeh111 said:
Nope, most people are going digital

I personally still get some things on blu-ray, but I'm generally patient enough to wait to see them on Sky Movies or Netflix

I did just get the complete Spartacus Collection on Blu-ray, but since I received that, I've watched about 10 episodes of tv on netflix, mostly because I don't really want to change the disc

Ha, my wife does that too. Record stuff of tv we have on blu-ray. Drives me crazy. I watch movies I don't expect to be watching a second time on tv or streamed as well, but when I happen on a really promissing movie I stop watching and order the blu-ray to watch with the best possible picture and sound quality on a projector. Plus I also like watching the extras or listening to the commentary tracks.

I realize I'm in the minority though, blu-ray simply isn't user friendly with its load times, manadatory screens, slow menus and copious amounts of commercials. If they don't sort that out 4K blu-ray won't have a chance. Even with instant play discs, universal resume play, or even full disc installs, I'm afraid 4k blu-ray will be a niche product. My hobby is going to become more expensive again, like it was with Laserdisc. The golden era of physical movie ownership is about to end.

Now how long until the full blu-ray experience can be had through streaming media.

I don't quite go that mad, I have been watching OTHER shows instead....

I don't actually go for bonus stuff that much, but I totally agree that blu-ray is a pain. My brother and I were bored the other week, so we watched Scott Pilgrim on blu-ray and wanted to compare it to the quality you get from Sony's video downloads. The difference isn't that great, but you have to sit through  5 minutes of menus before you can start the blu-ray, whereas the digital copy just plays immediately, from where you left it.

If you get a Sony 4K TV, I think you get a HDD with a few free movies rather than the blu-rays. I think physical media is going to be dead* by the end of the generation (in the same way that CDs are dead, ie, not really quite dead)