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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware Numbers Are Up!!! 14 December 2013

TheEspionage said:
bananaking21 said:
yeah those PS4 numbers are way undertracked.


Sony expects to sell 3m by the end of 2013.  This seems pretty accurate unless you expect them to sell more than what they're shipping.....Not to mention supply constrain that has been reported.  Once again, because of low shipments.  


This.

I think hard to belive people here are so obtuse to just think for a moment.

They might still living in the euphory of this year E3.



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Sony and Microsoft both selling their new systems. Big question for me is come February when the whole waiting list and lack of stock argument will end and anyone who wants one can easily find them in NA and EU.



Dark_Feanor said:
VXIII said:
"Others" equals 19.086 for the PS4 and 18.282 for the One this week. :/

PS4 launched in many countries in the middle east on 13th Dec and mostly out of stock right now, there is no way these numbers are correct imo.


What is the matter if they are soldout, if Sony shipped only 2k or less to each country?

I can't see why would Sony ship 2k for what seems to be their biggest launch. Don't forget  that the One is not avilable outside of the main regions , how come it is selling neck to neck with the PS4 while it is not officially available in "Others" ? it doesn't make sense imo.



pezus said:
Calling it now: NPD will show yet again that WiiU+3DS are being overtracked in the US.
Everything else is still a mystery


why? WiiU was pretty much spot on in november and 3ds numbers are down by a lot yoy (if I remember correctly).

 



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

Dark_Feanor said:
TheEspionage said:
bananaking21 said:
yeah those PS4 numbers are way undertracked.


Sony expects to sell 3m by the end of 2013.  This seems pretty accurate unless you expect them to sell more than what they're shipping.....Not to mention supply constrain that has been reported.  Once again, because of low shipments.  


This.

I think hard to belive people here are so obtuse to just think for a moment.

They might still living in the euphory of this year E3.

i would watch out from what you say. sony launched in more countries this week, has launched in more countries than the xbox one in previous weeks, yet the "others" sales are pretty much identical. so please, just take a moment to think. 



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Dark_Feanor said:

Yes, about 20k.

20k for LA + Oceania + Asia + Mid-East.

lol



TheEspionage said:

Sony expects to sell 3m by the end of 2013.  This seems pretty accurate unless you expect them to sell more than what they're shipping.....Not to mention supply constrain that has been reported.  Once again, because of low shipments.  

I get tired of the undertracked/overtracked comments with no evidence other than because i said so.

Quote me the bold part because Sony never said that.



TheEspionage said:
bananaking21 said:
TheEspionage said:
bananaking21 said:
yeah those PS4 numbers are way undertracked.


Sony expects to sell 3m by the end of 2013.  This seems pretty accurate unless you expect them to sell more than what they're shipping.....Not to mention supply constrain that has been reported.  Once again, because of low shipments.  


jack tretton already said they are shipping january stock. 


The most youll see by the end of 2013 is 3.3m, maybe 3.4m.   Right now it is to be expected for 200-350k a week.  Theyre not going to be able to ship more than that weekly. Sony isn't some magical unicorn.


where did you get that number from, may i ask?



Kind of surprised at how close the Wii U is to X1 and PS4. Can only be a good thing though.



BTW 3DS is crazy overtracked here and getting worst and worst.