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Will Wii U outsell GameCube?

yes 580 63.25%
 
no 261 28.46%
 
same 75 8.18%
 
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STRYKIE on 27 December 2013
Damian.W said:
STRYKIE said:
Damian.W said:
I have no doubt they will.
Remember, the gamecube sold poorly because the PS2 launched first as a cheap DVD player. It had the hardcore and non gamers rushing to buy it. The Cube had no chance.

This time around, the PS4 offers no new features like the PS1 CD, PS2 DVD, and PS3 BR. The Xbox One is fairly pricey, and has lost some of the hardcore gamers respect. The Wii U this time has its name to bring in some of the Wii casual users while promising games for the Nintendo die hards, with 3rd parties making the transition for some easier. It's by far the cheapest console too, so that plays in.

TLDR; It won't outsell its competitors, but it has a far better chance at selling better than the gamecube.

And yet the PS4 is off to a better start than all of them? Also, please don't tell me you believe that the PS1 being able to play audio CDs was a selling point behind the system...

First off, the CD feature was HUGE for the PS1. Not becuse of the audio, but because its competitors were still using Catridges. Price difference played a factor over which one was chosen. Also, the PS4 is starting off well because of the hype around it, just like the Wii U when it was selling out across the US in its first few months.

Besides, I don't even know why you brought the status of the PS4 here. I'm not critisizing it or saying it will sell badly. I'm saying that the Wii U will sell better than the GameCube because the overall interest in PS4 is small in comparison to the ps2, along with the Interest in the X1 being smaller than the 360.  

CD-ROM was the rule back then, not the exception. Sony, Sega, Panasonic etc. had all adopted it. The N64 was literally the only odd one out.

Whether the PS4 has an obscure new format or not is irrelevant, the problem is that the Wii U is yet another Nintendo system with technical handicaps, it just so happens that the storage medium isn't the advocate this time around. And the PS2 install base is still here, they've just been split in half by Microsoft. Either way, it's still market share that Nintendo risk losing out on.

Personally, I do think the Wii U could end up doing better than the Gamecube, it implores a lot more traditional/familiar aspects than the Gamecube did (that said, some people are banking waaaaaay too hard on Smash) I just disagree with the way you're looking at it.



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Damian.W on 27 December 2013
STRYKIE said:
Damian.W said:
STRYKIE said:
Damian.W said:
I have no doubt they will.
Remember, the gamecube sold poorly because the PS2 launched first as a cheap DVD player. It had the hardcore and non gamers rushing to buy it. The Cube had no chance.

This time around, the PS4 offers no new features like the PS1 CD, PS2 DVD, and PS3 BR. The Xbox One is fairly pricey, and has lost some of the hardcore gamers respect. The Wii U this time has its name to bring in some of the Wii casual users while promising games for the Nintendo die hards, with 3rd parties making the transition for some easier. It's by far the cheapest console too, so that plays in.

TLDR; It won't outsell its competitors, but it has a far better chance at selling better than the gamecube.

And yet the PS4 is off to a better start than all of them? Also, please don't tell me you believe that the PS1 being able to play audio CDs was a selling point behind the system...

First off, the CD feature was HUGE for the PS1. Not becuse of the audio, but because its competitors were still using Catridges. Price difference played a factor over which one was chosen. Also, the PS4 is starting off well because of the hype around it, just like the Wii U when it was selling out across the US in its first few months.

Besides, I don't even know why you brought the status of the PS4 here. I'm not critisizing it or saying it will sell badly. I'm saying that the Wii U will sell better than the GameCube because the overall interest in PS4 is small in comparison to the ps2, along with the Interest in the X1 being smaller than the 360.  

CD-ROM was the rule back then, not the exception. Sony, Sega, Panasonic etc. had all adopted it. The N64 was literally the only odd one out.

Whether the PS4 has an obscure new format or not is irrelevant, the problem is that the Wii U is yet another Nintendo system with technical handicaps, it just so happens that the storage medium isn't the advocate this time around. And the PS2 install base is still here, they've just been split in half by Microsoft. Either way, it's still market share that Nintendo risk losing out on.

Personally, I do think the Wii U could end up doing better than the Gamecube, it implores a lot more traditional/familiar aspects than the Gamecube did (that said, some people are banking waaaaaay too hard on Smash) I just disagree with the way you're looking at it.

I can't disgree with what you say. The company has had a history of some kind of technological limitation. However, these limitations were never truely the cause for sale issues.

The fact that the N64 utulized the catridges made people see the console and games as too expensive. The PS3 carried out what it did at first because it was a cheap blu-ray player and had free online, but it wasn't until it began to create for 1st party games that they retook some of their userbase from microsoft years later, along with near bankruptcy.

Since people already have some kind of Blu Ray player, along with streaming becoming a thing, the Wii U won't suffer or succeed based on technology, but on software. So far they show a decent line-up, and continuing to do so will help make the Wii U at least somewhat of a success. 

 



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RJ_Sizzle on 27 December 2013

Perhaps. One good sized price drop and a couple of more big Nintendo favorites, and it can do it with alloted time. It would probably work wonders if 3D World were included.



curl-6 on 27 December 2013
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
Captain_Tom said:

1) August was only 4 months ago.  I doubt they are swimming in cash.  At the very least they aren't profiting enough to lower the price any time soon (WHich was obviously my point).

2) Yep on the Wii.  You gonna tell me the Wii U will sell 100m too?  Oh wait no the Gamecube is killing it...

3) It may.  It could.  It might.  The PS4 may secretly double as a jetpack!   But it probably doesn't.  What we KNOW is that nothing so far has worked.  

1) But the price will drop. It will get there, and when it does it will enter the buying range of a whole new audience.

2) Still significant franchise growth that will not just vanish; we're seeing this with Kart 7 on 3DS; DS growth has it already outselling the GBA version on less than half the userbase.

3) Almost nothing has actually been tried so far. The console is still too expensive, it still lacks the real system sellers, Kart and Smash. Wii U's biggest guns haven't been fired yet, its silly to judge its future performance on the vastly different circumstances of the present.

1) Yes it will drop.  BUT SO WILL PS360!!!  Why do you keep ignoring that?!

2) Outselling GBA version?!  That's because that vwrsion was terrible!

3) Price cuts haven't helped, new games haven't helped, and Mario hasn't helped.  At the end of the day the only thing that will make a difference is a total relaunch with SSB, no tablet, and a sub $200 price point.  But I don't see that happening...

1) Because PS3/360 have been replaced and will dwindle from here on, and don't offer the same games as Wii U anyway.

2) Still outselling it.

3) The price cut still left it too expensive, none of the new games were powerhouses like Smash/Kart, and Mario's been oversaturated over the last two years.

LOL ok I will just end this back and forth with this:

 

You think the Wii U will make a comback and PS360 will disapear overnight...Because.  I know there is nothing that suggests your claim hopes are likely.  Do I think SSB will make a bigger difference than Mario?  Duh!  But it won't be that much.  

At this point Nintendo fanboys sound like broken records saying "Wait till ______!"  We have waited, and nothing changed.  I guess you guys will just have to keep on waitin'...

There is plenty of evidence, as I've covered already. We haven't waited; Smash, Kart, and the drops to $250 and $200 are still coming. Once those have been and gone, then we can say we've waited. Expecting Wii U to have recovered by this point is like expecting PS3 to have turned around before the $299 price drop.



S.T.A.G.E. on 28 December 2013
Damian.W said:
I have no doubt they will.
Remember, the gamecube sold poorly because the PS2 launched first as a cheap DVD player. It had the hardcore and non gamers rushing to buy it. The Cube had no chance.

This time around, the PS4 offers no new features like the PS1 CD, PS2 DVD, and PS3 BR. The Xbox One is fairly pricey, and has lost some of the hardcore gamers respect. The Wii U this time has its name to bring in some of the Wii casual users while promising games for the Nintendo die hards, with 3rd parties making the transition for some easier. It's by far the cheapest console too, so that plays in.

TLDR; It won't outsell its competitors, but it has a far better chance at selling better than the gamecube.


Is that really your assumption as to why the Gamecube sold poorly? Sony expanded the gaming market in its first generation and expanded it further. The market hasn't shrunk since. Sony is always using selling formats in their consoles because they are a market leader outside of the gaming industry in creating formats. 

The gamecube sold terribly because of bad market perception, the first party was the worst of all the consoles and that they had little third party support.



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Soundwave on 28 December 2013

All I know is that Skylanders + Nintendoland bundle is one helluva flop.

They're widely discounted here down to $219.99 ($80 off!) and there's still mountains of them at Best Buy here in Vancouver.

I picked up Wii Party U for $29.99, because I needed an extra Wiimote with Motion + and a couple of Vita games for $20 a pop. Some nice deals going on post-Christmas. No drop on Pikmin 3 though, was really hoping for that. 

There were like three XBox 1s on the shelf but they weren't selling them without a forced bundle, bone dry on PS4 stock (expected). 



BeElite on 28 December 2013

They should just create a bundle that's to good to pass up.

Make the bundles worth to good not to buy, throw in 3 games in maybe Mario Pikmen and some other. All established well reviewd games.



BeElite on 28 December 2013
Soundwave said:

All I know is that Skylanders + Nintendoland bundle is one helluva flop.

They're widely discounted here down to $219.99 ($80 off!) and there's still mountains of them at Best Buy here in Vancouver.

I picked up Wii Party U for $29.99, because I needed an extra Wiimote with Motion + and a couple of Vita games for $20 a pop. Some nice deals going on post-Christmas. No drop on Pikmin 3 though, was really hoping for that. 

There were like three XBox 1s on the shelf but they weren't selling them without a forced bundle, bone dry on PS4 stock (expected). 


i just grabbed a MArio bundle for 250 in Tdot

impulse buy.  Ps4 nowhere to be found.



emu-fred on 28 December 2013

I can see it outselling the Gamecube.



007BondAgent on 28 December 2013

People actually voted yes?

Lol