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selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
In terms of gaming its a fad, voice controls will carry on improving, just not sure why people think you need a camera for that.


The camera adds other great things for non gaming. 1080p Skype, no need to sign in as it recognises who is holding the controller. Video in video of your Game DVR. Project Spark uses the camera to allow you to do motion capture for your game characters. Kinect Sports uses the camera to map your real face into a cartoon avatar.


Other than the motion capture for Spark, which is an extremly niche use, and again still more than likley a FAD, you dont need $150 camera to do any of the other things. Face mapping in sports games has been done many times in the past on $20 cameras and ads almost nothing to the gameplay as all the other things you mentioned dont.. 

For GAMING its a fad, or even worse features that are so minor, most will not even notice there missing. 

For multimedia like picture in game DVR its a real nice thing, IGN have recomended the PS4 camera soley on that feature as well, if You tubing is what your into. Obviously a camera for skype is a great thing as well, i just think they could go with a much cheaper camera for all the features that anyone will use it for. 

When people talk about Kinect as a FAD there talking about the full body motion tracking, all its other features can be done on the cheap. 

XboxOne cost me £429.99 with Fifa 14. PS4 costs £359.99 without a game and no camera. So its not that much extra for Kinect at all. All in all what I paid for was a great priced bundle. To get a Ps4 with a camera and Fifa 14 would have cost me £479.99.

which is great for you, but that was a launch day bundle only in Europe, thats not what it costs now. 



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It depends on if Kinect is successful with the Xbox One (Which I think it can be).



I dont know if I would call it a fad, as much as an added, unwanted, tax to make a console less affordable. That has little to no game support to justify its existance. Even TVs have this stuff built in to it anymore, so its not really needed tbh. Its great people are finding out how to be lazy in new ways though. Soon lifting a finger will make people bitch...... sad.



 

selnor1983 said:
J_Allard said:
The Xbox One just launched and every one of them comes with the Kinect, which MS built the entire experience around.

LOL @ fad.


Hey the other fanboys lost the graphics edge, they have to pick on something.


If vgchartz gave an award for stupidest reply of the year, this would be right up there



Unfortunately, yes.
In 2010 at launch it was so big that it broke records for fastest selling electronics or something. It single handedly(well allong with the S model) expanded the 360 expiration date. The 360 would've peaked along with the Wii years ago if it wasnt for the 2010 updates.

Fast forward to 2013, the Xbone is out, even though Kinect 2 is included with it and is more advanced than Kinect 1, it doesnt and wont get the same hype. Why? 1. people are more interested in the new console itself 2. people have seen the Kinect already, they know what it does, its nothing new despite the more advanced feature set.

 

And unfortunatly for Microsoft, the Kinect 2 that could bring new life to Xbone 4-5 years from now like the original Kinect is already included at launch, they will need a new peripheral along a Slim model to extend its life. I think that peripheral will be a VR headset, it is gonna be big in this gen. Sony will have theirs with the PS4, PC will have Oculus Rift support, Microsoft might do their own, or get Oculus support or other 3rd party HMD.



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JayWood2010 said:

Why make a thread about a product you have doubtfully even used? And why answer the question that you haven't used? That is the questions that i have in this thread.

Kinect 1 - It was simply not good. Not good for gaming and had no other use.

Kinect 2.0 - Used as a multimedia hub it is magnificent. XBO literally revolves around Kinect 2.0 and gives you a unique experience not to be had on other consoles. At any given time i can change games by saying them, turn off my console, switch to tv, record gameplay, turn netflix on, skype, turn my volume up/down, go to internet by simply saying it.

The accuracy is very well and very impressive. Everybody who has seen my XBO is highly impressed and has left wanting one, going so far as facebooking their impression after leaving.

More importantly most poeple buying an XBO has been talking good about it rather than badly.  This is where my main question comes in.  Why are you talking about something I doubt you've tried.

Is it good for games? No, and i dont ever believe it will be and i dont think their is some misconception about this. Even Microsoft studios are abandoning Kinect as the main function.  Rare Ltd even came out and said when Kinect first came out there was a lot of emphasis to use it.  Now that it is included with Xbox we are to only use it when it makes the game better.  Use it where it is good and dont where it isnt.


Can it be used in games - Yes. It can do cool things in games as long as a controller is still the primary controls.

I will say it this way.  It isnt meant as a way to revolutionize gaming anymore.  It is meant to revolutionize your living room and your experience with the console.  As i said before I dont think there is much misconception about this.

i dont need to use the Kinect to comment and convers about its status in the industry and its popularity. i have no doubt about it, Kinect is a great great piece of tech, and the kinect 2.0 is an ever more outstanding piece of tech. but we are talking about its popularity here. and the reason i ask this is because the Kinect blew up 3 years ago, but now i see many many consumers complaining about it, saying they dont want it.  The reason why i commented on the performance of kinect is to explain my opinion on why i think it just might be a fad, my  opinion on its performance isnt what this thread is about though, its the kinects popularity. 

Fad: an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived; a craze.

The popularity of Kinect seems to fit perfectly to that describition, and i am wondering if that craze will ever happen again to the Kinect 2.0 and if it was a right choice for microsoft to bundle it with each Xbox One?

There are people who like the kinect and like it a lot, and i understand that. but is it the huge system seller that Kinect for 360 once was?

also, thanks for giving me an actual well thought reply, instead of calling me a fanboy who needs to pick on something because i lost the graphics edge, my god....



bananaking21 said:

i dont need to use the Kinect to comment and convers about its status in the industry and its popularity. i have no doubt about it, Kinect is a great great piece of tech, and the kinect 2.0 is an ever more outstanding piece of tech. but we are talking about its popularity here. and the reason i ask this is because the Kinect blew up 3 years ago, but now i see many many consumers complaining about it, saying they dont want it.  

Fad: an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived; a craze.

The popularity of Kinect seems to fit perfectly to that describition, and i am wondering if that craze will ever happen again to the Kinect 2.0 and if it was a right choice for microsoft to bundle it with each Xbox One?

There are people who like the kinect and like it a lot, and i understand that. but is it the huge system seller that Kinect for 360 once was?

also, thanks for giving me an actual well thought reply, instead of calling me a fanboy who needs to pick on something because i lost the graphics edge, my god....


Well who is complaining about it?  Mostly i see people complaining that had no interest in the xbox in the first place.  People also were predicting XBO to fail on arrival.  People screamed doom on PS3 at launch and 3DS etc  Forums are not the best place to get honest answers.  A lot of answers will be ergh, biased is the only word i can think for it right now.

We really will not know if kinect is a fad or not ever.  Kinect is a console now.  If you reworded your question to was kinect gaming a fad then i would say yes as i never understood why people wanted a kinect in the first place.  But Kinect 1 and Kinect 2.0 are two different entities and two different strategies.  You will need to wait and see if XBO fails or if it is successful before answering your question.

Oh and no problem.  I saw that comment as well lol




       

J_Allard said:
The Xbox One just launched and every one of them comes with the Kinect, which MS built the entire experience around.

LOL @ fad.




The Wii was labeled a fad



Is Kinect a fad? Is it a device that attracted wild enthusiasm that died fairly quickly?

Well, yes. Obviously. It was hailed as the next step in gaming. Controllerless and awesome. Everyone was excited, especially its detractors, as they had something new to attack. But, regardless of these detractors and the fears and doubt they spread, the Kinect sold superbly well. Everyone wanted to try it out.

Then people got it. And most were disappointed. The only function the device excelled at was dancing games (and similar) and receiving voice commands, and any old microphone could do voice commands aspect.

So, the enthusiasm for Kinect died relatively quickly, and 360 sales fell away quickly about a year after the device was launched. So, think for a moment, it's clear the Kinect was the very definition of 'fad'.

Then the One came along and included the camera with every console sold. By this point, the excitement for the device was largely gone. Kinect was not a primary selling point for most, though it did have fans in some quarters. It seems obvious few wanted the device for gaming. Of those mustering excitement and evangelising for their console of choice, they mostly referenced Kinect-based menu navigation with voice commands. But excitement levels for this were hardly high.

So, Kinect was a fad no longer. Indeed, it hardly registered as a cool thing to most gamers, no matter how much the device had improved from the earlier 360 version.

Therefore, Kinect was fad. It drove sales for the 360 in the latter months of the last generation when excitement for it was high, but as we know, these sales were not sustained. Then end-users realised the device did not perform as advertised, and word of this spread. The fad quickly died away, and Kinect was no longer a must-have piece of awesome. Instead, it was simply a camera with the 360, and, later, the One. It no longer drove sales; instead, it was seen by many as an impediment to sales, as it significantly raised the price of the One as a console, allowing the PS4 to appear much cheaper for a what appeared to be a better console.

tl;dr: Yes, Kinect was a fad. One that died. Now it's just a device that few care all that much about.