Should have taken a pic of the dudes ass.

You know, it's good to show humility now and then when you're wrong and not move the goalposts:

"Sony has never been known for pumping out first party MP games, but MS has mainly focused on doing MP games."

You created the argument, at least have the balls to stick with it.

Will Gamestop sell someone an Xbox One without being forced to buy a bundle? They wouldn't sell my friend one last week unless he bought a game with it. He bought Dead Rising 3 and they let him get one.

The way it works(at least where I am) is  if we have them in stock in store we sell them as is. We obviously encourage Games and accessories along with it, and Live/ PS+. Now if the store itself is sold out, Gamestop can also find you a system from their Web in Store. GS is holding a undisclosed amount of consoles back for replacements(in case you have a defective console), and preying on last minute buyers with forced bundles. Every bundle for PS4 starts at 600, XBOs start at 800. Now if you were already interested in the games these bundles offer, they are actually really good deals. But if you are only interested in 1 out of 8 games they throw at you then it isn't much of a benefit. Yet you could always sell said games u don't like. But at that point you are losing money.

Thanks for explaining that. I was baffled as to how they pick and choose who has to buy bundles or not. My other friend was able to just walk in 2 weeks ago and buy one without any games attached.

Talk about moving goal posts, the xb1 is not selling as well as expected by anyone! All analysis I had seen until a week or two ago suggested that bith xb1 and ps4 would be supply constrained until march 2014 or so! Now anyone can walk into most stores in the most important market for the xb1 and get them for all their family members and the dog on a whim... This is not a good sign by any measure since they could not have manufactured much more than 4 to 6 million of these so far (probably less than 4 million reached the market).

so even if they provided more than sony (which I am sure they did) ms did not reach their sales expectations, the consoles are not flying off the shelves... By any measure, no matter how they sold on launch day, that is not going on anymore... 

For all we know there is demand for consoles, the ps4 is flying off the shelves when shipment arrives.... The wii u has better demand than expected it's just that not so many people want the xb1 this year, not need to defend againt the facts, because nobody would stock so many boxes that size if they did not expect to sell them right away, this is obviously not happening and people must be very worried in redmond!

Yeah I should have said good MP games with a population not poor excuses for MP games with a low population.

Some interesting things about PS4 in Moscow, Russia.
XBOne isn't released here yet.
At the launch all PS4 were sold on preorders. Almost all of them. In free retail there were a few shop where it was possible to buy a PS4 for a terryfying $599 (it is the official price for Russia). They were sold out in minutes. We still has a great demand of PS4 and not a console in stock.
More, some network sellers decided to raise official price to $850-899 and people still buy it. Sony tried to regulate the price but most of sellers f*cked Sony off and sell as they wanna do. "if you want to get a PS4 for $599 - make a preorder and get it directly from Sony" they say.

I, personally, missed the preorder fever. I came to a small shop at the day befor release evening, gave 50 extra bucks to a manager and got the console. I didn't realise, but it was a bargain.

Same situation in Brazil and South America.

Fella, you were wrong. It's that simple. Live is NOT better than PSN.