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S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah...Sony brainwashed themselves into third place and brainwashed themselves into second place right?

....What exactly are you trying to say? Sony has done a lot to win the good graces of fans back. Sony is known to increase their library of successful franchises every gen.If it wasnt for the Kinect Sony would've passed Microsoft two years ago in sales.

Gears of War cannot follow Microsoft unless Epic says it does. Same goes for Titanfall with EA which will be full multiplat by the second game. Sony doesn't need to worry about that with Uncharted or The last of Us, now do they?


I think you are a bit confused about my argument.  I'm saying  Sony fans only care so much about the graphics because its been Sony's big thing since last generation.  Until then Sony consistently had the weakest console in terms of graphics.  Sony fanboys will simply say whatever Sony does like parrots so long as it doesn't deeply conflict with their beliefs.

The only thing Sony did was capitalize on Nintendo's bad business practices from back in the N64 era.  Since then they haven't really done anything to hurt their reputation or anything to bolster their reputation.  The hardcore loved the PS3, they just couldn't justify buying one until the price dropped.  

Microsoft exclusives are a lot more likely to remain exclusives than Sony exclusives.  Microsoft right now is throwing money out the window paying for them, Sony can't do that so they lose out.  Right now Sony only has its first party as guaranteed exclusives.  The rest are pretty much flying away to multiplatform status like  Metal Gear.  



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Cause that's really all it's got. And $100 less.

True the differences in graphics are going to be really minor at best. Remember the Xbox was over twice as powerful as the PS2 and it didn't really matter.

Xbox one has so many other enhancing features that will make gaming and games more interesting. Then there is all the others stuff it can do, and more stuff it will be able to do in the future.

The PS4 should be a fine gaming system, but some are so worried about it 'loosing' they just can't help themselves.



 

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DarkD said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah...Sony brainwashed themselves into third place and brainwashed themselves into second place right?

....What exactly are you trying to say? Sony has done a lot to win the good graces of fans back. Sony is known to increase their library of successful franchises every gen.If it wasnt for the Kinect Sony would've passed Microsoft two years ago in sales.

Gears of War cannot follow Microsoft unless Epic says it does. Same goes for Titanfall with EA which will be full multiplat by the second game. Sony doesn't need to worry about that with Uncharted or The last of Us, now do they?


I think you are a bit confused about my argument.  I'm saying  Sony fans only care so much about the graphics because its been Sony's big thing since last generation.  Until then Sony consistently had the weakest console in terms of graphics.  Sony fanboys will simply say whatever Sony does like parrots so long as it doesn't deeply conflict with their beliefs.

The only thing Sony did was capitalize on Nintendo's bad business practices from back in the N64 era.  Since then they haven't really done anything to hurt their reputation or anything to bolster their reputation.  The hardcore loved the PS3, they just couldn't justify buying one until the price dropped.  

Microsoft exclusives are a lot more likely to remain exclusives than Sony exclusives.  Microsoft right now is throwing money out the window paying for them, Sony can't do that so they lose out.  Right now Sony only has its first party as guaranteed exclusives.  The rest are pretty much flying away to multiplatform status like  Metal Gear.  

Sony creates dedicated fans, just like Nintendo dedicated to a wealth of exclusives. Microsoft....I don't really understand the hype outside of Halo and Gears after a decade of being in the industry. I still buy their consoles though, just don't understand the hype.


That last paragraph brought me back. Just looking back there were so many lessons to be learned from this gen. If you throw money at developers to make games become exclusive, its still not your franchise but theirs. They decide where it goes. Microsoft proved that when you put your faith in third parties for exclusives you can lose them easily, so Sony further bolstered their first party ranks when they lost exclusivity to the likes of Tekken, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear at E3 2008. Since then you've seen a new Sony that we've never seen before wall to wall, lined with exclusives.  

Microsoft always plays the third party exclusive game. They just can't seem to nail having a fleet of first party even though they've been trying since the first gen. It was actually much worse last gen with more franchises, but eventually they all dried up when Sonys marketshare expanded and third parties wanted multiplat profits. Thanks to their purchasing of Rare at least their first party has a leg to stand on. Microsoft's most successful exclusive titles were in development before they bought them or paid for their exclusivity. Halo, Gears, Rares IP's  and Titanfall would be the last example. Its their great equalizer. Can't blame them for being dependent upon it. Obviously they have the best OS but they are the least creative company of the big three.



BeElite said:
sweetoothj said:

First off, there has been plenty of gaming consoles that were weak for its time that ended up being great like the ps2. Second off, no one besides Sony's first party studios are going to be able to take advantage of it. I was looking at these side by side graphic comparisions between xbox one and ps4 and can't tell much difference and the difference will be even less noticable to anyone else that is playing the game a few feet from the t.v. and not standing right next to the t.v. Surely this can't be a legit reason to prefer a console over another.


Oh well lucky then that sony first party is rather big.

Plenty reasons Ps4 is better

Ps4 is more powerfull
It costs Less
MUCH better 1st party 
Many more exclusive franchises (sony own way more)
Has the indies kissin their ass
Has the 3rd parties back on their shlong
Never had the drm bs evil policies MS was forced to abandon (in theory could bring back)
PS4 controller is rechargabe , Xbox one come with aa's WTF (seriosly MS you cheap fraks have u no shame) extra 25$


Much smaller and lighter device and no external power brick

You can change the HDD (faster booting and loading times, more disc space) easily and without losing your warranty

Less power consumption in standby mode (if you don't turn off your console completely, you save money)

Much faster boot times after a cold start (if you turn off your console completely after using it, you save time)

 



BeElite said:
DaRev said:

It was inevitable really, but I think with every generation that goes on Microsoft gains a bigger userbase. Anyways, I think the X1 right now is a better value than the PS4, considering what's packed in the box.


Dude i own both and really it isent.  
As fun as talking to the bone to turn it on is, PS4 ruthlessly faster boot up and game loads are worth way more.  Bone is a fast mustang but Ps4 is a race spec Ferrari.

This gen you got some of the best devs in the world working exclusivly on the more powerfull easy to program console.  Ill tell you PS4 is gonna slaughter the bone once Sony first partys start dropping thier games.  

 

Well that just might turn out to be true but, so can the opposite - who knows. Right now, I think both are in the same boat in being consoles with almost nothing to play or show off their 'greatness'. There's only so much Killzone and Forza one man can play before he gets bored, and goes back to his PS360 - which I assume a lot of games are doing right now. So saying one is better than the other because it's faster is nonesence because RIGHT NOW, both seem equally matched. However, I think the X1 is built better, it just looks better, the UI looks better and i'm sure will get even better, even the HDMI cord and mic in the box are better, it comes with a camera,...it's just is a better value IMO, but that's just my opinion. One appears to be mainly a gaming console, while the other appears to be an entertainment console. So in that sense as well the X1 I think is a better value.



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because Console gamers are all about the graphics. Until a PC gamer comes along to shut them up, and then they change their tune to "its not all about graphics, you elitist PC gamers"
(Speaking from experience as a PC gamer)



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Cleary397 said:
because Console gamers are all about the graphics. Until a PC gamer comes along to shut them up, and then they change their tune to "its not all about graphics, you elitist PC gamers"
(Speaking from experience as a PC gamer)


sorry but ever PC gamer I speak to fails to build me a PC for £350 that will rival a PS4....and they cant even guarantee it will run games as long as the PS4 will. Maybe youre different?

People who built their PC's when PS3 came out cant even run COD ghosts anymore because of RAM requirement, yet the PS3/360 still can.



oniyide said:
DaRev said:
oniyide said:
DaRev said:
Because Sony fanboys are the loudest minority in the gaming industry. PS3 was also arguably better than the 360, but we all know how that turned out.

with the PS3 selling more in the end despite being released a year later?

OT why would one care if people say which console is better? Unless its something blatantly wrong.

As I said, it was inevitable, but who really cares at this point - MS alread did their damage to the Sony dominance in the gaming industry.

Was it? was it really? did you really believe that? serious question OR did the system catch up and the you were like ok its gonna happen. Becasue there were many people on this very site who didnt believe it would and had to eat a lot of crow with tater sauce. Yeah some damage BUT nothing is set in stone and id say MS did a little damage to itself. MS could and seems to be losing some marketshare back to Sony

MS made the right move in releasing the 360 ahead of the PS3, cause if they didn't, the PS3 would have been as popular as the PS2 I think. Yes the PS3 cought up EVENTUALLY, but the damage was already done. Things are on a more even plain right now, although I think there are still marginally more Sony fans out there.

To answer your question, I thought MS would have brought the X1 a year earlier, before the PS3 caught the 360, to save face and to get another jump on the new console generation. Ultimately, I didn't think the PS3 would cathe the 360, or MS wouldn't have let that happen. I guess MS took a page out of Nintendo's and Sony's book and got too confident.



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BeElite said:


Oh well lucky then that sony first party is rather big.

Plenty reasons Ps4 is better

Ps4 is more powerfull
It costs Less
MUCH better 1st party 
Many more exclusive franchises (sony own way more)
Has the indies kissin their ass
Has the 3rd parties back on their shlong
Never had the drm bs evil policies MS was forced to abandon (in theory could bring back)
PS4 controller is rechargabe , Xbox one come with aa's WTF (seriosly MS you cheap fraks have u no shame) extra 25$



This, minus the obscenities



Being more powerful and cheaper alone make it a much better piece of hw.

Having a bunch of 1st pty support nail it.

Why would someone buy the most expensive if its weaker? Only reason is the kinect, if you are into that type of thing go for it, personally I love my game with AA...

Oh and the ps4 is much better looking in the living room, no power brick, slick...



RIP ps3, xbox360.

welcome home ps4 and X1