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By end of January it should be above 5.5 million easy(install base)



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Aielyn said:
Seece said:
No, do you see the little '     ' I dusagree that either are gaining momentum, it was used to shoot down his argument that it was.

500k, when you do 300k~ in a November with Black friday. 500k DOES become an impossibility, unless we see major intervention from Nintendo. Will we? I very much doubt it.

And you have now proven yourself to be full of it.

As benji pointed out, the Worldwide figure for November was actually in the ballpark of 470k (or 490k, possibly - I'm using VGChartz numbers, I'm sure there are other estimates). And November approximately equal to following January certainly isn't unprecedented in terms of Worldwide figures; especially when the strongest momentum for the system is being seen in Japan (and you cannot possibly deny that the Wii U has significant momentum in Japan, now... unless you're one of those who insist that 3k in one week prior to significant game releases and price drops, etc, proves that there's no momentum in a week when it sold nearly 75k).

You have spent all of your energy trying to disprove the idea of the Wii U selling 200k in America. I find this funny, because you're trying to assert that my overall prediction of 500k is completely unrealistic, but America only accounts for 40% of that prediction - meaning, it could be half that, and still my prediction wouldn't be that far from accurate, with 400k (much more than most other people's predictions).

And Nintendo is already intervening. They went from practically no advertising through most of November to a heavy advertising campaign in December. They had no information on any future Wii U titles in November, but now we know about a number of additional titles.

Simply put, you seem to use nothing except the argument that "as it has been so far, so shall it always be". As though nothing ever changes. Of course, it's an absurd assertion, but it's the argument you're using to disagree with me - "it hasn't happened before, so it's practically impossible now". And yet, even when I provide examples of some of these things happening before, you still insist on it being practically impossible this time.

I've put forward my justification for my prediction. Time for you to put up or shut up. It's not enough to say "it hasn't happened before", you have to provide specific reason for it not being an acceptable prediction. And just saying "Wii U isn't gaining momentum" isn't any better than "it hasn't happened before" - show me the facts; if you want to claim that Wii U isn't gaining momentum, you need to provide evidence that shows that the current sales increase isn't atypical, that systems that aren't gaining momentum can be expected to see a similar increase under similar circumstances. And no, 150% increase is not similar to 500% increase.


What momenteum are you talking about? 220k for a November in the US is worse than any November the GameCube had before getting usurped by the Wii in 2006. It's probably the worst November for a Nintendo console since they start keeping track of monthly sales. It was so dissapointing that Nintendo opted not to share the number in their PR. It's comparable to the Dreamcast's 2nd November, which was a disaster. The system in not gaining any traction in Europe from the looks of things either. 

That leaves Japan, but we know sales drop significantly there after the first week of January as per their holiday trends and that's the smallest market for consoles globally. 



Soundwave said:

What momenteum are you talking about? 220k for a November in the US is worse than any November the GameCube had before getting usurped by the Wii in 2006. It's probably the worst November for a Nintendo console since they start keeping track of monthly sales. It was so dissapointing that Nintendo opted not to share the number in their PR. It's comparable to the Dreamcast's 2nd November, which was a disaster. The system in not gaining any traction in Europe from the looks of things either.

That leaves Japan, but we know sales drop significantly there after the first week of January as per their holiday trends.

You do understand the phrase "gaining momentum", don't you?



Aielyn said:
Soundwave said:

What momenteum are you talking about? 220k for a November in the US is worse than any November the GameCube had before getting usurped by the Wii in 2006. It's probably the worst November for a Nintendo console since they start keeping track of monthly sales. It was so dissapointing that Nintendo opted not to share the number in their PR. It's comparable to the Dreamcast's 2nd November, which was a disaster. The system in not gaining any traction in Europe from the looks of things either.

That leaves Japan, but we know sales drop significantly there after the first week of January as per their holiday trends.

You do understand the phrase "gaining momentum", don't you?


I don't see the term "gaining momenteum" being applicable when the system is coming up with incredibly underwhelming sales below expectations in major markets. It's a given every system, even the Vita, increases towards the year end, there's nothing notable about that. 

In the context of what the Wii U's sales should be, the level they're putting up now is horrible. 220k is not even freaking half (half!) of the GameCube's second November. That's horrible, no one at Nintendo is happy with that at all. 

This holiday season season judging by November is pretty much veering towards a worst case scenario for Nintendo. 



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Soundwave said:
Aielyn said:
Soundwave said:

What momenteum are you talking about? 220k for a November in the US is worse than any November the GameCube had before getting usurped by the Wii in 2006. It's probably the worst November for a Nintendo console since they start keeping track of monthly sales. It was so dissapointing that Nintendo opted not to share the number in their PR. It's comparable to the Dreamcast's 2nd November, which was a disaster. The system in not gaining any traction in Europe from the looks of things either.

That leaves Japan, but we know sales drop significantly there after the first week of January as per their holiday trends.

You do understand the phrase "gaining momentum", don't you?


I don't see the term "gaining momenteum" being applicable when the system is coming up with incredibly underwhelming sales below expectations in major markets. It's a given every system, even the Vita, increases towards the year end, there's nothing notable about that. 

In the context of what the Wii U's sales should be, the level they're putting up now is horrible. 220k is not even freaking half (half!) of the GameCube's second November. That's horrible, no one at Nintendo is happy with that at all. 

This holiday season season judging by November is pretty much veering towards a worst case scenario for Nintendo. 

Oh but because it's gaining momentum faster than Vita it means the WiiU is set for a record breaking January!

@Ailyse or whatever your name is, I was guesstimating off NPD, didn't realise WiiU had sold 100k?@ in Japan that month, Europe isn't as high as we state it is.

As you can see I'm not putting much effort into my arguments not because I can't, but because it's poinless. The WiiU isn't selling anywhere near 500k in January and the sales will prove that soon enough. This is exactly like those expecting WiiU to break 8m+ this holiday.

One day people will stop expecting such ridiculous sales.